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<blockquote data-quote="FAST6191" data-source="post: 9392711" data-attributes="member: 32303"><p>I have still yet to see any case where dumping it yourself acts as a defence over merely owning it at the time, and can't point to any law saying that or likely to be interpreted that way; most such things tend to be phrased in terms of harms done, and if you own it and did not torrent it and thus distribute it as part of downloading it then harms or counts of infringement get hard to demonstrate.</p><p></p><p>If you dump it yourself then it is a nice clean way of being sure you have it, and thus why many places dealing in audio, DVD, and in some cases BIOS rips. Some legal snoozefest in the jewel case might say you can make one backup yourself and must get rid of it if you sell it but having that be binding is also dubious.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="FAST6191, post: 9392711, member: 32303"] I have still yet to see any case where dumping it yourself acts as a defence over merely owning it at the time, and can't point to any law saying that or likely to be interpreted that way; most such things tend to be phrased in terms of harms done, and if you own it and did not torrent it and thus distribute it as part of downloading it then harms or counts of infringement get hard to demonstrate. If you dump it yourself then it is a nice clean way of being sure you have it, and thus why many places dealing in audio, DVD, and in some cases BIOS rips. Some legal snoozefest in the jewel case might say you can make one backup yourself and must get rid of it if you sell it but having that be binding is also dubious. [/QUOTE]
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