Hacking Apps that BRICK now.

xzxero · Oct 16, 2009

I don't know why this hasnt been made yet, but we need a list of apps that now lead to bricks by downloading a
stub IOS60
which removes your system menu and preloader if you have it.
These are mostly online updaters.
I don't know them all, but i read about a few on here.
You guys can help me create a full list so the community can be aware.
If you have any of the apps below stored on your sd card or something, erase it and let people know!
Ok so let's start.

Waninkoko's Firmware updater 4.0
Waninkoko's Firmware updater 4.1
[^only if you don't have an installed and functional IOS60^]
WiiSCU .21 [.22 works fine]
IOS60/61 Installer /Patcher

XFlak · Oct 16, 2009

Great idea for a thread, I just want to mention that wiiscu 0.22 is safe to use, but when it's loading it still says its v0.21 even though its 0.22. So make sure you know which one you have before you use it.

ndpndnt16 · Oct 16, 2009

we could try to gather testers and confirm if its not a banner brick app

FenrirWolf · Oct 16, 2009

Glad you guys mentioned this. I'd left Wanky's 4.1 updater on a guide I maintain elsewhere, but it seems like no one tried using it before I could take it down. So far no one's been bricked by following it and I'm not about to break my track record.

xzxero · Oct 16, 2009

ndpndnt16 said:
we could try to gather testers and confirm if its not a banner brick app

?
banner bricks have to with WAD installations.

online updaters have absolutely nothing to do with channels.

G0dLiKe · Oct 16, 2009

We´ve been talkin bout this earlier in a thread. Good one.

EDIT: Ahm, about WiiSCU... I used it 5 or 6 days ago on a 4.1 Wii to just update all channels and it wasnt bricked... FYI

brice08 · Oct 16, 2009

waninkoko's upgrade for me and low level brick!!

xzxero · Oct 16, 2009

G0dLiKe said:
We´ve been talkin bout this earlier in a thread. Good one.
i know me and Lothlorian and seen many brick cases because of these apps recently

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QUOTE(G0dLiKe @ Oct 16 2009, 09:24 AM) EDIT: Ahm, about WiiSCU... I used it 5 or 6 days ago on a 4.1 Wii to just update all channels and it wasnt bricked... FYI

you must used .22 then.
it was updated a while back.

kedest · Oct 16, 2009

Is it really Nintendo's intention to cause bricks or is that just a side-effect of using an unoffical updater?
And what if you use dop-ios or nusd to download old ios files? will they be stubs too?

FenrirWolf · Oct 16, 2009

kedest said:
Is it really Nintendo's intention to cause bricks or is that just a side-effect of using an unoffical updater?
And what if you use dop-ios or nusd to download old ios files? will they be stubs too?

It's a side effect of using updaters that don't have proper sanity checks on what they're doing. It's the coder's fault if it blindly grabs the latest IOS instead of what's known to work, not Nintendo's.

G0dLiKe · Oct 16, 2009

xzxero said:
G0dLiKe said:

We´ve been talkin bout this earlier in a thread. Good one.
i know me and Lothlorian and seen many brick cases because of these apps recently

Posts merged

QUOTE(G0dLiKe @ Oct 16 2009, 09:24 AM) EDIT: Ahm, about WiiSCU... I used it 5 or 6 days ago on a 4.1 Wii to just update all channels and it wasnt bricked... FYI

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you must used .22 then.
it was updated a while back.

Possibly. It was the one Wacko released, I was wondering because the readme still says 0.21(just downloaded the 0.22 again to check and yes it says 0.21).

Edit: Checked the .xml it says .22

xzxero · Oct 16, 2009

kedest said:
Is it really Nintendo's intention to cause bricks or is that just a side-effect of using an unoffical updater?
And what if you use dop-ios or nusd to download old ios files? will they be stubs too?

im pretty sure its a side effect.

dop-ios and NUSD let you choose what version of the IOS you want installed.

v6400 is the stub version
v6174 is the original working version.

longtom1 · Oct 16, 2009

you need to add IOS60 Patcher

xzxero · Oct 16, 2009

longtom1 said:
you need to add IOS60 Patcher

done. anymore anyone can think of?
we want the least bricks as possible!

XFlak · Oct 16, 2009

WiiSCU 0.21 and WiiSCU 0.22 are identical in every way EXCEPT v0.22 will not download the latest version if IOS60 (which is a stub), and this will only brick you if you are on 4.0 or 4.1, and don't have bootmii as boot2 (I'm pretty sure it will even brick u if u have preloader)

So if you have WiiSCU 0.21, it is safe to use AS LONG AS you don't update IOS60.

EDIT: on a personal note, I happened to be modding a virgin 4.0 wii ONE day after the 4.2 update and I hadn't heard about it... wiiscu 0.21 bricked me... piece of shit (no offense intended, app kicks ass, just pisses me off I bricked a friends wii)

xzxero · Oct 16, 2009

xflak40 said:
WiiSCU 0.21 and WiiSCU 0.22 are identical in every way EXCEPT v0.22 will not download the latest version if IOS60 (which is a stub), and this will only brick you if you are on 4.0 or 4.1, and don't have bootmii as boot2 (I'm pretty sure it will even brick u if u have preloader)

So if you have WiiSCU 0.21, it is safe to use AS LONG AS you don't update IOS60.

yea but theres a huge risk of brick with the touch a button.
thats a no go in my book.

XFlak · Oct 16, 2009

totally agree with u, every1 should upgrade to 0.22 and delete 0.21 immediately!

Pakatus · Oct 16, 2009

xflak40 said:
totally agree with u, every1 should upgrade to 0.22 and delete 0.21 immediately!

Sticky on this please...

lechon3x · Oct 16, 2009

Ios 60/61 patcher definetly. I bricked my wii last week because of it. Good thing I bought it six days before and was able to return it for a new one. On my new one, I used a combination of xzxero's and devyil's guide, even used wanin's updaters to go from 3.4u to 4.0u and then 4.1u and the only problem I had was the sistem files corrupted everytime I reintalled preloader. Changing the ios in the preloader settings fixed that. I guess I was lucky using wanin's updaters, they didn't brick me.

xzxero · Oct 16, 2009

lechon3x said:
Ios 60/61 patcher definetly. I bricked my wii last week because of it. Good thing I bought it six days before and was able to return it for a new one. On my new one, I used a combination of xzxero's and devyil's guide, even used wanin's updaters to go from 3.4u to 4.0u and then 4.1u and the only problem I had was the sistem files corrupted everytime I reintalled preloader. Changing the ios in the preloader settings fixed that. I guess I was lucky using wanin's updaters, they didn't brick me.

you mistve got realll lucky then guy.

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