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Hello,
I'm surprised no one made this thread before me. Anyway, in this thread, I'll try to explain how to avoid most of the DRE errors and how to save your Wii lens from the death
This post will be divided in three parts : The drive, the media and the software/configuration part which will be the most important
As I'm French, my english is very poor so please contact me if you see any errors
The drive
Burning a Wii media with an old drive is an error. Even if your computer can read your burned media perfectly, it doesn't mean your media is perfectly burned. A computer can read a lot of media, even the crappiest, but the Wii is very picky and you could damage your Wii by using an old drive.
If you have to change your DVD recorder, it appears that the Pioneer DVR-115D is a very good DVD recorder.
Also, you can improve the burning quality by flashing your drive with a newer firmware ( see www.cdfreaks.com for more information )
Remember : The Wii drive IS NOT your computer. It hasn't be made to read burned media and a bad burn could damage it.
The media
All the media aren't of the same quality. You can use crappy medias for your computer (Premium, Datawrite ...) as it doesn't really matter, but NOT with your Wii. The quality of the media mostly depends of its mediacode ( you can see the mediacode of your DVD-R with ImgBurn for example but a lot of tools can show it ).
Do not buy cheap medias if you want to improve your rate of successful burns. Good medias are : Tayo Yuden, Sony, Verbatim, Phillips ... I'm personally using some Memorex with a RITEK dye and they work like a charm.
It appears that DVD-R works better than DVD+R but I don't have any DVD+R so it'd be difficult for me to prove this information. Anyway, DVD-R works great so just buy some and you shouldn't have any problems.
As homesickalien explained on page 3, using paper labels on your disc can result in various errors / DRE. Never use paper labels for your Wii media. Using special discs, like Verbatim AZO may lower your chance of getting a successful burn : Wii isn't made to read them, just to read standard DVD-R.
The software / configuration
First of all, DO NOT think that burning your media at low speeds improves the burning quality. In some case, burning at low speed makes a lot of PI / PO errors, as I showed in another thread. On my configuration, burning at 16x gives better result than burning at 2x.
Does it mean that burning at high speed is better than burning at low speed ? NO, I don't want to be contradictory but it all depends of your configuration. You have to test yourself to check what's the better burning speed for YOUR configuration.
The quality of a burn can be tested with some tools, like DVDInfoPro (Google
) It's ease of use : Launch DVDinfopro, click on Pi Po, make sure PIE Scale and PIF scale are on Auto Peak, select MAX then click on start to check how much PI / PO you have.
If DVDInfoPro inform you that your drive isn't suitable for checking Pi Po errors, destroy it (your drive, not DVDinfopro)
There is three types of errors :
PI : Those errors are common and it doesn't really matter except if you have a lot of these.
PIF : Those errors are more important, it could result in DRE errors if you have a lot of these but you can have some without having any DRE problems.
POF : Those errors are deadly. It will cause DRE errors. If you have one, just one POF error, your media is dead.
Anyway, the Quality rating evaluates the quality of your burn. For the Wii :
A rating of 100% is perfect but I don't think it's possible
A rating of 90% or more is great but could be improved (95-97% for example).
A rating of 80% is poor but will work with the Wii
A rating of 70% is really poor, it could work with the Wii but don't use it, it could kill your Wii lens.
Less than 70%, it could work too but it will kill your Wii lens.
I used myself some discs with a quality rating of 0% (yeah, 0%) and they worked great. It proves that your burned software can work without DRE even if it's a bad burn. But the Wii lens might die because of using bad burns.
A comparaison between two No More Heroes burns. Graph 1 is the burn at 2x, Graph 2 is the burn at 16x
The software you use affects the quality rating you'll have. A lot of people reported that burning with Nero gives a lot of DRE errors. In my opinion, the best burning software for Wii ISOs is ImgBurn.
I'll add more contents in the future
I'm surprised no one made this thread before me. Anyway, in this thread, I'll try to explain how to avoid most of the DRE errors and how to save your Wii lens from the death
This post will be divided in three parts : The drive, the media and the software/configuration part which will be the most important
As I'm French, my english is very poor so please contact me if you see any errors
The drive
Burning a Wii media with an old drive is an error. Even if your computer can read your burned media perfectly, it doesn't mean your media is perfectly burned. A computer can read a lot of media, even the crappiest, but the Wii is very picky and you could damage your Wii by using an old drive.
If you have to change your DVD recorder, it appears that the Pioneer DVR-115D is a very good DVD recorder.
Also, you can improve the burning quality by flashing your drive with a newer firmware ( see www.cdfreaks.com for more information )
Remember : The Wii drive IS NOT your computer. It hasn't be made to read burned media and a bad burn could damage it.
The media
All the media aren't of the same quality. You can use crappy medias for your computer (Premium, Datawrite ...) as it doesn't really matter, but NOT with your Wii. The quality of the media mostly depends of its mediacode ( you can see the mediacode of your DVD-R with ImgBurn for example but a lot of tools can show it ).
Do not buy cheap medias if you want to improve your rate of successful burns. Good medias are : Tayo Yuden, Sony, Verbatim, Phillips ... I'm personally using some Memorex with a RITEK dye and they work like a charm.
It appears that DVD-R works better than DVD+R but I don't have any DVD+R so it'd be difficult for me to prove this information. Anyway, DVD-R works great so just buy some and you shouldn't have any problems.
As homesickalien explained on page 3, using paper labels on your disc can result in various errors / DRE. Never use paper labels for your Wii media. Using special discs, like Verbatim AZO may lower your chance of getting a successful burn : Wii isn't made to read them, just to read standard DVD-R.
The software / configuration
First of all, DO NOT think that burning your media at low speeds improves the burning quality. In some case, burning at low speed makes a lot of PI / PO errors, as I showed in another thread. On my configuration, burning at 16x gives better result than burning at 2x.
Does it mean that burning at high speed is better than burning at low speed ? NO, I don't want to be contradictory but it all depends of your configuration. You have to test yourself to check what's the better burning speed for YOUR configuration.
The quality of a burn can be tested with some tools, like DVDInfoPro (Google
If DVDInfoPro inform you that your drive isn't suitable for checking Pi Po errors, destroy it (your drive, not DVDinfopro)
There is three types of errors :
PI : Those errors are common and it doesn't really matter except if you have a lot of these.
PIF : Those errors are more important, it could result in DRE errors if you have a lot of these but you can have some without having any DRE problems.
POF : Those errors are deadly. It will cause DRE errors. If you have one, just one POF error, your media is dead.
Anyway, the Quality rating evaluates the quality of your burn. For the Wii :
A rating of 100% is perfect but I don't think it's possible
A rating of 90% or more is great but could be improved (95-97% for example).
A rating of 80% is poor but will work with the Wii
A rating of 70% is really poor, it could work with the Wii but don't use it, it could kill your Wii lens.
Less than 70%, it could work too but it will kill your Wii lens.
I used myself some discs with a quality rating of 0% (yeah, 0%) and they worked great. It proves that your burned software can work without DRE even if it's a bad burn. But the Wii lens might die because of using bad burns.
A comparaison between two No More Heroes burns. Graph 1 is the burn at 2x, Graph 2 is the burn at 16x
The software you use affects the quality rating you'll have. A lot of people reported that burning with Nero gives a lot of DRE errors. In my opinion, the best burning software for Wii ISOs is ImgBurn.
I'll add more contents in the future
