There is more to that problem: Nowadays everything has to be online. (Mass) multiplayer! Singleplayer? Boo! So 1990s! When a good portion of a game is online, it means having next to nothing when the servers go down. Generally I agree with you: The current implementation of the download business is flawed and anti-consumer (and WILL shift towards Mega-DRM). So… will not buy!
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KleinesSinchen
What I don’t get is “The future is gonna suck […] Imagine not having anything better to play than the Wii U.” Is a good future dependent on NEW games? Maybe because I’m getting older: Zero interest in all that new stuff. If someone knocked at my door and said: “Here is a free PS5.” My answer would be: “Thank you; I’ve no use for this. Give it to somebody else.” More good games playable on CFW Wii U than I’ll need.
KleinesSinchen
It was and is DRM that keeps me from buying stuff. Back in 2003 or so I stopped buying PC games because of SecuROM (and others) giving paying customers the middle finger. (Revisited that topic last year and saw my memories confirmed)
Console games were protected back then, but the DRM never bothered me. I’ve yet to encounter a (working) PS1 rejecting a legit disc form the correct region.
Console games were protected back then, but the DRM never bothered me. I’ve yet to encounter a (working) PS1 rejecting a legit disc form the correct region.
KleinesSinchen
With the transition to devices capable of firmware update (cat and mouse game with homebrew/CFW) my interest in consoles gradually faded limiting myself to used Nintendo games and when Nintendo opted to started banning homebrew/CFW users from eShop my decision was final: Not getting a Switch, not giving a single cent for Nintendo anymore.
Greetings – Sinchen
Sorry for the many messages. Stupid 420 char limit
Greetings – Sinchen
Sorry for the many messages. Stupid 420 char limit
Jiehfeng
I really feel like in the near future in this century, gaming will be a thing of the past. Sure seems like it's heading there.
The Real Jdbye
I'm not saying you necessarily need new games to have a good time (not that they will be new anymore by the time the storefront goes down) But having a time limit on all future console games you buy is bad no matter which way you look at it. What if you want to revisit an old (by that point it could be 10-20 years old or maybe more) classic, but you can't because it's a console exclusive and the storefront is gone.
The Real Jdbye
And I figure that you can only replay the same games so many times before you get bored of them so even with everything the Wii U can emulate, eventually you'll want something different. The Wii U was just a funny example but obviously you'd also be able to play PS5 and XSX games and anything older than that so there's a huge library, but still.
The Real Jdbye
I'm thankful for emulation, without it so many games would be out of reach, either because the original hardware failed as you mentioned (the Jaguar CD addon is a notorious example here as they have almost all failed and there are no spare parts available, but thankfully there is not much there worth playing), or other reasons, but newer systems are hard to emulate and it might get even harder in the future.
The Real Jdbye
I can accept that hardware fails, that's just an inevitable fact with age and it's no fault of the manufacturer. But shutting down a storefront for a console which needs the storefront to function because there is no other way to get games, that seems like it ought to be illegal, and is a kick in the face to anyone who bought the console. And who knows, maybe it will be made illegal when it becomes a problem.
The Real Jdbye
At least assuming there will be emulators available for future systems, there will still be a way to play those games, even if you will have to pirate a game you already paid for (some people might still not be OK with that, but that's their problem)
The Real Jdbye
@Jiehfeng We might see another video game crash, it's not inconceivable, though video games are so much more ingrained in our society now than the 80s when they were considered toys, so it's unlikely they will go away completely. A reset might not be such a bad idea. A video game crash would give companies time to reconsider what they're doing and maybe do it better next time.
KleinesSinchen
"But having a time limit […] is bad" Yes!
"But shutting down a storefront […] ought to be illegal" Hard question. Should they be obliged to support re-download for all eternity?
"[…]you get bored of them so even with EVERYTHING THE WII U CAN EMULATE" Oh my… how many games do you need???
"I can accept that hardware fails, that's just an inevitable fact[…]" Yes and no. Early mass-failure is different than OLD age fail
"But shutting down a storefront […] ought to be illegal" Hard question. Should they be obliged to support re-download for all eternity?
"[…]you get bored of them so even with EVERYTHING THE WII U CAN EMULATE" Oh my… how many games do you need???
"I can accept that hardware fails, that's just an inevitable fact[…]" Yes and no. Early mass-failure is different than OLD age fail
The Real Jdbye
If they don't want to keep the storefront open they should at least be required to allow alternate methods of installing games. How about they keep a very minimal server running which only purpose is to authenticate the games you install (that you've probably downloaded from some sort of unofficial online archive) so it would prevent piracy while allowing you to install games you own and everyone would be happy.
The Real Jdbye
And I mean. What good is it having thousands of games if the game I want to play is not among them? Sometimes you just want to play a certain game and nothing else will do. Or is that just me?
The Real Jdbye
I was mostly thinking of old age fail as consoles traditionally have been resilient to early failure and your example was the NES. But modern consoles have certainly not been the most robust and disc rot is a real thing too so that is a valid concern.
KleinesSinchen
"Sometimes you just want to play a certain game and nothing else will do. Or is that just me?"
It is not just you. Likely by the majority.
"But modern consoles have certainly not been the most robust"
It feels like 80s/90s consoles are tanks. I have zero defective Nintendo hardware from that time including cartridges. Was thinking about Xbox 360 red ring of death.
It is not just you. Likely by the majority.
"But modern consoles have certainly not been the most robust"
It feels like 80s/90s consoles are tanks. I have zero defective Nintendo hardware from that time including cartridges. Was thinking about Xbox 360 red ring of death.
The Real Jdbye
I can play online with my modded Switch so I lose out on nothing. Sometimes I feel like I suffer from compulsive hacking or something though. I can't buy a device without trying to hack it, I don't feel like it's mine until I've hacked it in some way (and I love sticking it to the man, lol),
The Real Jdbye
Even when I have no real use for hacking it, like I got a cheapo Chinese Android based handheld at one point and managed to find instructions to root a different device with the same SoC in it, that happened to also work on my device.
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On the other side: At some point hardware WILL fail. From that point of view even NES games will get lost even though you paid for them. DSi/Wii Shop went down – purchased content still available. Backup is mandatory.