What systems do you prefer playing on actual hardware?

pig_slaughterer69 · May 5, 2024

Normally I use emulators because they're more convenient but still play most DS and 3DS games on a real DSi and New 3DS. Pixel perfect games like the DS Castlevania trilogy look incredible on the DSi. Games which utilise the second screen effectively such as Fire Emblem play better on actual hardware. The New 3DS's super stable 3D makes almost all games more immersive. Then there are touch screen heavy games which I imagine aren't fun to play with a mouse including Kid Icarus, Phantom Hourglass and Spirit Tracks.

Castlevania and maybe a few other GameBoy games use LCD ghosting to produce transparency effects. Personally I could never go back to such a dimly lit screen though.

Some systems don't have good emulators available so you can argue that Sega Saturn and Nintendo 64 games are best played on actual hardware.

I prefer emulators most of the time for their convenience and emulator enhancements but there are times when you're missing out if you're not using actual hardware.

master801 · May 5, 2024

Dreamcast
PS1
PS2
PS3
N64
GameCube
NDS
Wii
Wii U
Switch

I prefer to use physical consoles because they tend to be resource intensive and emulators don't tend to perform the greatest nor are they accurate (graphical glitches and such) compared to real hardware.

Latiodile · May 6, 2024

any console that relies on gimmicks like the wii (i don't have a dolphin bar and i don't want to deal with syncing a wiimote to my pc), ds and 3ds (also some of the games i play aren't compatible with citra)

but also the xbox, xbox 360, ps3 and switch because those emulators just haven't reached a point of maturity where i can feel comfortable playing anything on them, i use only two benchmark games for xenia (and xenia canary), both pretty high profile games, one crashes the emulator and the other still has severe graphical issues (forza 4 and midnight club LA)
also ps2 because pcsx2 is still horribly buggy and barely runs like any of the games i want to play on it without significant graphical issues or slowdown (even on the latest nightly)

Ryab · May 6, 2024

pig_slaughterer69 said:
Normally I use emulators because they're more convenient but still play most DS and 3DS games on a real DSi and New 3DS. Pixel perfect games like the DS Castlevania trilogy look incredible on the DSi. Games which utilise the second screen effectively such as Fire Emblem play better on actual hardware. The New 3DS's super stable 3D makes almost all games more immersive. Then there are touch screen heavy games which I imagine aren't fun to play with a mouse including Kid Icarus, Phantom Hourglass and Spirit Tracks.

Castlevania and maybe a few other GameBoy games use LCD ghosting to produce transparency effects. Personally I could never go back to such a dimly lit screen though.

Some systems don't have good emulators available so you can argue that Sega Saturn and Nintendo 64 games are best played on actual hardware.

I prefer emulators most of the time for their convenience and emulator enhancements but there are times when you're missing out if you're not using actual hardware.

Any system I can really. If its not too much work to play on original hardware I will.

4d1xlaan · May 6, 2024

Latiodile said:
(i don't have a dolphin bar and i don't want to deal with syncing a wiimote to my pc)

you dont need a dolphin bar, you can use regular wii sensor bar (plug it into a Wii, power it on, and the sensor bar will be powered on and functional in dolphin)

and if you install libusbk driver to a bluetooth usb adapter, dolphin can use it directly and syncing + using wii mote will work the same way as on a real wii

just in case you're interested in graphical enhancements in dolphin vs real wii, if you want console-accurate then you might as well stick to the real wii for sure

Latiodile · May 6, 2024

4d1xlaan said:
you dont need a dolphin bar, you can use regular wii sensor bar (plug it into a Wii, power it on, and the sensor bar will be powered on and functional in dolphin)

and if you install libusbk driver to a bluetooth usb adapter, dolphin can use it directly and syncing + using wii mote will work the same way as on a real wii

just in case you're interested in graphical enhancements in dolphin vs real wii, if you want console-accurate then you might as well stick to the real wii for sure

that's a lot of effort for wii games tbh, plus i have some games that just don't work well on dolphin either, weirdly enough as it is, but i do use dolphin for some occasional games that just let me use a gamecube or classic controller, which isn't many
also a bit of a waste of electricity to pull out my wii and turning it on just to power the sensor bar, i might as well just use the wii at that point

impeeza · May 6, 2024

Arcades!

Xdqwerty · May 6, 2024

impeeza said:
Arcades!

bc the button setups of arcade machines dont translate that well into traditional game controllers?

RedColoredStars · May 6, 2024

4d1xlaan said:
you dont need a dolphin bar, you can use regular wii sensor bar (plug it into a Wii, power it on, and the sensor bar will be powered on and functional in dolphin)

and if you install libusbk driver to a bluetooth usb adapter, dolphin can use it directly and syncing + using wii mote will work the same way as on a real wii

just in case you're interested in graphical enhancements in dolphin vs real wii, if you want console-accurate then you might as well stick to the real wii for sure

I was going to say the same thing about using a real wii and the libusbk driver until I saw you already posted it. Only problem with those setups (and any other setup in Dolphin) is terrible Wii Remote speaker audio compatibility. Try playing something like the game Calling. The audio is so laggy and glitchy it ruins the experience. I get not tons of games use the speaker audio much, but the ones that do, Dolphin does not emulate the speaker audio very well at all. Not even in BT passthrough mode.

But yes, for most Wii games my preferred setup is Dolphin with the sensor connected to my actual Wii.

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Latiodile said:
that's a lot of effort for wii games tbh, plus i have some games that just don't work well on dolphin either, weirdly enough as it is, but i do use dolphin for some occasional games that just let me use a gamecube or classic controller, which isn't many
also a bit of a waste of electricity to pull out my wii and turning it on just to power the sensor bar, i might as well just use the wii at that point

You can literally use two candles. Or a wireless battery powered sensor bar. it doesn't have to be a Dolphin Bar.

Latiodile · May 6, 2024

RedColoredStars said:
I was going to say the same thing about using a real wii and the libusbk driver until I saw you already posted it. Only problem with those setups (and any other setup in Dolphin) is terrible Wii Remote speaker audio compatibility. Try playing something like the game Calling. The audio is so laggy and glitchy it ruins the experience. I get not tons of games use the speaker audio much, but the ones that do, Dolphin does not emulate the speaker audio very well at all. Not even in BT passthrough mode.

But yes, for most Wii games my preferred setup is Dolphin with the sensor connected to my actual Wii.

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You can literally use two candles. Or a wireless battery powered sensor bar. it doesn't have to be a Dolphin Bar.

two candles means i need to have lit candles around, or literally any candles in the house to begin with... and by dolphin bar i meant literally any wireless battery powered bar, that's a lot of effort and money to put into a console i play once every 6 months

RedColoredStars · May 6, 2024

Latiodile said:
two candles means i need to have lit candles around, or literally any candles in the house to begin with... and by dolphin bar i meant literally any wireless battery powered bar, that's a lot of effort and money to put into a console i play once every 6 months

If $8 is considered a lot of money (can probably find candles for free), may I suggest finding a new profession or relocating to a different residence or location that matches your means? And yeah, tons of effort to turn on or plug in a sensor bar. lol. C'mom. It's fine if you prefer to play on original hardware, but you're making other options out to be some overly complicated and spendy chore when they aren't.

Latiodile · May 6, 2024

RedColoredStars said:
If $8 is considered a lot of money (can probably find candles for free), may I suggest finding a new profession or relocating to a different residence or location that matches your means? And yeah, tons of effort to turn on or plug in a sensor bar. lol. C'mom. It's fine if you prefer to play on original hardware, but you're making other options out to be some overly complicated and spendy chore when they aren't.

i'm not allowed to be lazy?

but also yes with my disability pay i only get paid like $400/month($600 cad) and i can't be sparing shit like $30 for some wii sensor bar on amazon or candles i'll never light unless i want to use my wii
i also never said it's overly complicated to plug in my wii to use a sensor bar on my pc, just redundant. what is complicated is installing correct drivers for a usb bluetooth adapter i don't have just so i can sync my wiimote for wii sports or some other gimmick game i'll only play once a year, when i could be just... opening idk ppsspp and playing some psp game i easily just dumped and copied to my pc, without any extra drivers or setup required

jkm81 · May 6, 2024

all handhelds i prefer to play them in actual hardware unless its a handheld i dont have (gb,gbc). As for consoles, i like to have only one connected to the TV if i can emulate other consoles ill do it. (only missing gc, n64,latest xbox. dont care about nes,snes and dreamcast and all the old ones.)

impeeza · May 6, 2024

Xdqwerty said:
bc the button setups of arcade machines dont translate that well into traditional game controllers?

Yeah, and the overall experience, you standing struggling because the tokens are depleting your savings, the rush of seeing your three letters on the high score table... nothing compares.

RedColoredStars · May 6, 2024

Latiodile said:
i'm not allowed to be lazy?

but also yes with my disability pay i only get paid like $400/month($600 cad) and i can't be sparing shit like $30 for some wii sensor bar on amazon or candles i'll never light unless i want to use my wii
i also never said it's overly complicated to plug in my wii to use a sensor bar on my pc, just redundant. what is complicated is installing correct drivers for a usb bluetooth adapter i don't have just so i can sync my wiimote for wii sports or some other gimmick game i'll only play once a year, when i could be just... opening idk ppsspp and playing some psp game i easily just dumped and copied to my pc, without any extra drivers or setup required

Omfg. Will you just stop? I only receive a limited disability income also and I seem to have no issues buying a sensor bar. $30 bucks? I already said you don't need an actual Dolphin Bar, then you moved your goal posts with "But but but I meant ANY sensor bar." A standard one is like $8 bucks give or take, which I already pointed out, yet here you are again with "I can't spend $30!"

Secondly, yes, you did allude to adding a sensor bar being too much effort in your last post. It's literally right there.

two candles means i need to have lit candles around, or literally any candles in the house to begin with... and by dolphin bar i meant literally any wireless battery powered bar, that's a lot of effort and money to put into a console i play once every 6 months

You were NOT talking about a usb blutooth adapter in that comment. It was referencing an $8 sensor bar. LOL! Not to mention you don't even need a USB blutooth adapter unless you're doing BT Passthrough so that's a complete straw man argument.

Why do you lie and move your goal posts about something as trivial as a sensor bar? As stated before, it's perfectly fine for to you enjoy the original hardware and to not care about buying a sensor bar (or candles, lol). But continuing to act like it's all some expensive, complicated, time consuming thing is still flat out bs.

RAHelllord · May 6, 2024

I prefer pretty much all games on their original hardware, unless the hardware sucks ass. It just has more charm with the original quirks, controllers, and limitations. Playing them on a PC is fine but it feels more clinical in many ways, like comparing a modern McD to one from the 90's.
However I'm not above improving the worst aspects to make things better, most of my consoles are modded to allow for things like cleaner video and audio, being region free, easier data management, or flash carts to apply convenience patches.
And in some other cases where the hardware would be impractical to have I do prefer emulation, like my Analogue Pocket has a ton of arcade games and I own an arcade stick, that's perfect for me considering I can't physically have 3 dozen arcade machines in my tiny apartment.

RedColoredStars said:
Omfg. Will you just stop? I only receive a limited disability income also and I seem to have no issues buying a sensor bar. $30 bucks? I already said you don't need an actual Dolphin Bar, then you moved your goal posts with "But but but I meant ANY sensor bar." A standard one is like $8 bucks give or take, which I already pointed out, yet here you are again with "I can't spend $30!"

Secondly, yes, you did allude to adding a sensor bar being too much effort in your last post. It's literally right there.

You were NOT talking about a usb blutooth adapter in that comment. It was referencing an $8 sensor bar. LOL! Not to mention you don't even need a USB blutooth adapter unless you're doing BT Passthrough so that's a complete straw man argument.

Why do you lie and move your goal posts about something as trivial as a sensor bar? As stated before, it's perfectly fine for to you enjoy the original hardware and to not care about buying a sensor bar (or candles, lol). But continuing to act like it's all some expensive, complicated, time consuming thing is still flat out bs.

Different people have different thresholds for BS to accept, and you don't know the expenses their disability requires. Hell, I have a USB powered dolphin sensor bar for my PC and I still prefer just playing Wii games on my TV with a real Wii, simply because then I don't have to deal with any hassle that dolphin and windows bring.

Latiodile · May 6, 2024

RedColoredStars said:
Omfg. Will you just stop? I only receive a limited disability income also and I seem to have no issues buying a sensor bar. $30 bucks? I already said you don't need an actual Dolphin Bar, then you moved your goal posts with "But but but I meant ANY sensor bar." A standard one is like $8 bucks give or take, which I already pointed out, yet here you are again with "I can't spend $30!"

Secondly, yes, you did allude to adding a sensor bar being too much effort in your last post. It's literally right there.

You were NOT talking about a usb blutooth adapter in that comment. It was referencing an $8 sensor bar. LOL! Not to mention you don't even need a USB blutooth adapter unless you're doing BT Passthrough so that's a complete straw man argument.

Why do you lie and move your goal posts about something as trivial as a sensor bar? As stated before, it's perfectly fine for to you enjoy the original hardware and to not care about buying a sensor bar (or candles, lol). But continuing to act like it's all some expensive, complicated, time consuming thing is still flat out bs.

dude you're just picking fights just to fight with people at this point, i meant any "wireless battery powered sensor bar" when i said dolphin bar from the start, i just thought it was the general term people used for those, and yes $30 i literally went on amazon and searched "wireless sensor bar" and like every result was over $20, idk what fantasy land you live in where they're only $8, i want to live where things are that cheap

i also wasn't the first one to mention usb bluetooth adapters, that was mentioned in the first reply that suggested i used libusbk or whatever it's called, hence why i mentioned it
you need to read other posts before going all tunnel vision and trying to insult me for responding to other things in my replies

i still stand by my word that it's unnecessarily complicated and costy to spend $20+ for a sensor bar and install an untrusted bluetooth driver to use my wiimote on my pc, if i can just... use my wii

RedColoredStars · May 6, 2024

Latiodile said:
dude you're just picking fights just to fight with people at this point, i meant any "wireless battery powered sensor bar" when i said dolphin bar from the start, i just thought it was the general term people used for those, and yes $30 i literally went on amazon and searched "wireless sensor bar" and like every result was over $20, idk what fantasy land you live in where they're only $8, i want to live where things are that cheap

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i also wasn't the first one to mention usb bluetooth adapters, that was mentioned in the first reply that suggested i used libusbk or whatever it's called, hence why i mentioned it
you need to read other posts before going all tunnel vision and trying to insult me for responding to other things in my replies

i still stand by my word that it's unnecessarily complicated and costy to spend $20+ for a sensor bar and install an untrusted bluetooth driver to use my wiimote on my pc, if i can just... use my wii

I'm not picking a fight. I'm pointing out the inaccuracies of your statements, lies, and moving of goal posts. You're 100% cherry picking your Amazon results to fit your narrative, sorting by price high to low, or some other stupidity. I literally just searched again and there are plenty for $8-$15. And you wonder why I keep calling you out on your bs.

The sensor bars do NOT need any bluetooth drivers to use so I'm not sure why you're even going on about that. That is only necessary if you want to use BT Passthrough with a usb bluetooth adapter. How many times do the same exact things need to be explained to you? You're the only one in this conversation that isn't reading posts.

I still stand by my word that there is absolutely nothing unnecessarily complicated or spendy about a cheap $8 sensor bar that doesn't require any drivers whatsoever to use your Wii Remote with Dolphin.

Latiodile · May 6, 2024

RedColoredStars said:
I'm not picking a fight. I'm pointing out the inaccuracies of your statements, lies, and moving of goal posts. You're 100% cherry picking your Amazon results to fit your narrative, sorting by price high to low, or some other stupidity. I literally just searched again and there are plenty for $8-$15. And you wonder why I keep calling you out on your bs.

The sensor bars do NOT need any bluetooth drivers to use so I'm not sure why you're even going on about that. That is only necessary if you want to use BT Passthrough with a usb bluetooth adapter. How many times do the same exact things need to be explained to you? You're the only one in this conversation that isn't reading posts.

my search filter is visible in that screenshot, i literally just typed "wireless sensor bar" and then proceeded to press print screen, the top right even still says "featured"

are you dense? i need the bluetooth driver for the controllers

RedColoredStars · May 6, 2024

Latiodile said:
my search filter is visible in that screenshot, i literally just typed "wireless sensor bar" and then proceeded to press print screen, the top right even still says "featured"

are you dense? i need the bluetooth driver for the controllers

LMAO! You do not need bluetooth drivers to use a sensor bar with Dolphin.

P.S. Learn how to do a proper search. Not my fault you can't figure this shit out. it's been explained over and over and over, yet you still insist it's $30 for a sensor bar and that you need drivers to use it. LOLOL! Talk about dense.

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