Pokemon Sword and Shield; I've had enough

I've always been a rather avid pokemon fan. Ever since gen 4. I enjoyed heart-gold and soul-silver loved black and white for all it's quirks, and it's squeal. I enjoyed XY for it moving to a new platform and the addition of mega evolutions.
But when I got my hands on sun and moon. It felt incomplete, it felt unnecessarily slow and handholdy, the graphics did look better, but the slowdowns in fights did hinder the experience a little. However I found Sun and Moon as a okay game, it was trying to do something different, and that was okay.... Until Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon came out.
Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon added mega evolutions back, and had a tweaked story and two new pokemon. This was when for me that I started getting a little bit upset. I felt like my purchase was just robbed, like my purchase of sun was worth absolutely nothing. As now there was a game, with the almost the same name, with a few added mechanics that was removed from the game for clear reason.
I held my quarrel with that and played ultra sun. To then immediately see most of the same story beats, and then the new Npc's kind of just shoe horned in. Even most of the island challenges were the same, except for like a Pokemon being swapped out.
Now I was frustrated with the games. Though I still held my good will, perhaps gamefreak was just stumbling on their faces. Let's go games come out. I felt a little but annoyed, but still held hope, especially when Masuda stated that a core game was being released for the switch. And with the increase of power, they should be able to make this better than the previous game. Maybe some animation tweaks, the world look-
Musada removes all pokemon
At first, I wasn't immediately angry, I tried to give the sound reason that perhaps they were working on a whole lot.... Until he said it was for animations and models...
And then proceeds to reuse nearly every single animation in xy and sun and moon. Even the rival uses Heu's talk animation, sure the moves themselves look great, but what the pokemon are doing, their animations are not all that great.
Ever since I've been getting progressively more pissed at sword and shield. Like the realization that this is a 60 dollar game.
At this point I'm done. And what sent me over is this
https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemon/comments/d0oapn/pokemon_camp_reuses_all_pokemon_amie_animations/
So let's recap here.
Nearly all battle animations are reused.
Nearly all trainer animations are also reused, both NPC and player.
Addition of side modes that does not solve the fact that there is a ton of Pokemon removed. One of which reuses animations from a 6+ year old game.
The massive scale of pop in the wild area.
and pokemon are being removed.
So what does Sword and Shield have to offer?
New pokemon (not a whole lot given the fact they only showed us six-seven of them)
Expanded pokemon amie. (pokemon camp)
Game runs in 720p (or higher/lower)
And a new story and region....
What I'm getting at here, is what is being removed, does not add up to the amount of lost. It is not a net gain. This is a net loss, and a big one at that. And what is infurrating is that people claim game freak can't reuse the models... when they are reusing the animations. (let alone the fact the models themselves are HD. It's just the texture work isn't)
In the end I'm just sick and tired of pokemon Sword and Shield. It's a shit show that doesn't end. And the fact that Masuda stated this was for the core fans, for returning or vet players.
Removing pokemon, and then giving half fast excuses for it doesn't cut it. I will not be able to get passed getting blantely lied to. If he removed pokemon and VASTLY or just even relatively decent increase in the animation department, I would have no problems with him removing pokemon. BUT THEN, there's also the fact that when asked about the gen remakes or the next games, that he can't gaurentee that all pokemon from the previous game will be able to be in, which is bullshit.
If I play sword and shield, and the hypothetical gen 4 remake comes out, I should expect to at least be able to transfer the pokemon from sword shield to the gen 4 remake. But he can't even gaurntee that? Even though at this point you are reusing the engine? That doesn't make any sense at all.
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everyone should be upset about the pokemon being entirely removed from this game, but the ultra sun ultra moon thing had been happening ever since pokemon yellow though.
 
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reused animations
did you see those pokemon camp animations in the direct, say "i remember these from six years ago," whip out your 3ds, and find the animations in X and Y?
no, you didn't. you will most likely not recognize any of the reused animations. therefor it doesn't matter.
pokemon being removed
you didn't really say anything bad about sun and moon other than the handholding and slowdowns on old3ds. pokemon bank didnt work with sun and moon until several months after its release. when pokemon bank finally came out, did you feel that sun and moon instantaneously became far better games? No. Anybody who hated the game before it had pokemon bank still hated it. But my point is that anybody who liked the game before pokemon bank worked with it are admitting that the game is still fun without every pokemon.
this is a 60 dollar game
that's how buisness works, gamefreak will charge as much as people will be willing to pay. wii u ports are also $60 for the same reason.
gamefreak is lying
yeah, that's pretty rude, but whatever. it won't make their game any less fun for me. but this is the only point that i really think is valid for being mad at gamefreak.
 
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"reused animations"
I noticed that they were similar post or without post. I'm only using that as a tool to show it. And even then the battle animations are clearly reused. So yes I would of noticed
Slowdowns still happened on n3ds for sun and moon. They did not optimize for the n3ds much if at all, and I criticized sun and moon for having TWO new version nearly a year later, with mechanics that was omitted from the previous entry. What I'm saying with Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon, is that there was not enough to justify for a entirely new game, and to need to pay for that.
"that's how business works, gamefreak will charge as much as people will be willing to pay"
previous entries where thirty dollars. So it could get away with having less. Now it's 60, with a version split, that's incomplete compared to other entries, so really it's now 120 dollars if you want to own both versions of the game. Which what is stopping them from making a Ultra Shield or Ultra Sword? They clearly proved that they are willing to do that with sun and moon. And that right there is scummy business. That's like as if a sucessor to Mario odyssey out, reusing the same engine, except removing cappy, and not having anything to replace it, and just use the base machanics. And then six months later, they release a completely separate game, that is nearly identical to the sucessor, but this time, it has cappy, and reuses levels from the sucessor.
I'm not going to accept a worse product, with a price hike.
 
You say you hate it, I say I love it. Breeding pokemon, transfering older hacked pokemon into games. When you dive into that competitive Pokemon Nobody's out catching wild pokemon. I can say 99% of people with a Magnezone hp fire didn't catch it in the wild. I'd rather the game have me discover and feel enjoyment in the pokemon I've caught. From playing pokemon in a multitude of mmo's offering different metas of mons with limiting movesets the changes will be beneficial.
 
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Ummm. I think you missed my entire point RivenMain. I'm in support of having pokemon transferable...
 
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but there's still going to be transfers and likely even transfers of hacked pokemon.
just not all of them.

not having all of them sucks from a competitive perspective and it sucks from a gameplay one.
 
From what I hear, they won't even be coded into the game. We'll know for sure upon release.
 
they absolutely wont be coded in, that's the whole problem.

no one expected this to be the first game to have all pokemon in the wild like every basic pokemon hack, but we're getting the first game where you couldn't even hack your favorite pokemon in if it's missing from their roster
 
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Yeah that's pretty much where I take the biggest issue. Like if they weren't all catch able in the wild (for SwSh), that I don't mind. But the fact we know that pokemon are being omitted entirely from the game files. That crosses the line.
 
to be honest i stopped playing Pokemon after it hit the 3ds and got too 3D. I miss the old playing style
 
i wonder if the final gen will have all regions/mon even with watered down graphics (maybe that's the reason) maybe their doing it this console generation if true it's sad to see pokemon go.....
 
A cool concept would be to have all the Pokemon regions in one game, and as you change regions,, the graphics switch accordingly too and it all ties together in the same Pokemon universe as one large story
 
anyone recall the first 3 gens? where gen 1 and gen 2 gameboy games? gen 3 would not let you import them. but they kept that up Until Now...''

also is there a list of what pokemon removed and stuff like that?
 
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Gen 3 had a technical reason to not being able to do so.
this does not excuse SwSh. As they already have means to transfer Pokemon from previous titles, aka Pokemon home. BUT unlike gen3, SwSh is REMOVING, OMITTING, pokemon. The gen 3 games still had the gen 1 2 pokemon in their game files.
 
Funny thing is: people are still going to play it. I will. Just remember that "pay" and "play" are two different words.

I'll also Surprise Trade meme-mon and bastardize things like "Blastoise" to, "BlastOnAzzBois" (if possible).
Pokemon-Sword-Shield-Surprise.jpg


Basically, I accepted their bullshit, but they'll have to deal with angry parents calling Nintendo about off-color jokes from my bullshit.

Do you, but give the game a chance.
 

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