Heterosexual privilege and other gender/sexuality issues...

0) The heterosexual privilege is a horrible thing to face every f***ing day. What is heterosexual privilege you ask? It is the fact that being heterosexual is the "blank slate" or the normal condition of a human being. It is a given that any presumed heterosexual person can walk into a store, and purchase a greeting card that is perfect for their relationship. Any homosexual person cannot do the same - I cannot walk into a store and buy a greeting card that expresses my love for my partner. Heterosexual privilege is the state of mind that makes a couple of opposite sexes not worthy of attention, while homosexual couples have to be guarded about what they say. Homosexuals do not shove this fact into your faces - you just notice it more. I am still waiting for a marketing firm to create an image of homosexual women or men to be presented normally - instead of being the weird/attention getting thing most people consider it to be.

1) I find people who are obnoxious about their sexuality really annoying. Be they gay, straight, bisexual, transgendered or whatever labels they apply to themselves. This behaviour is really easy to get out of control - it's okay to be proud and out, but do some people really have to make asses of themselves? This goes to all of the people who don't defy stereotypes - we have women who are really masculine/butch or really feminine guys! Seriously, people - it's about relationships - you can't have relationships when you alienate the majority of people you interact with. And it's a cause for safety - what happens if a really genderqueer (someone who doesn't follow traditional gender roles) individual happens to piss off a really traditional person? It may mean violence, it may mean death or at least embarrassment.

2) Coming out is an ongoing process for queer people. We choose everyday who we explain our sexuality to. Some individuals choose to make it obvious through mode of dress, hairstyles, or even speech patterns. When someone "comes out" they make that choice to make it known. I for example, am out to a few cousins, my dad and a couple other trustworthy people.


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- I'm still looking to trade an NTSC version of Populous DS - it comes with a full manual and case.
- I just downloaded Transformers Revenge of the Fallen - why hasn't Dark of the Moon come out yet as a scene release?
- I'm loving Radient Historia - great game, but a bit confusing. Stupid timeline type thing - but I'm looking forward to a Lavos type showdown at the end.
- Okamidem is amazing. I always loved watching the original, but never got around to getting that system or that game. It's funny in parts too - it's like a chinese painting come to life!

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clearly the US is messed up

i see men kissing other men

girls kissing other girls

holding hands

you name it

no one says anything

you can even go into card shops

and get card for special occasions
e.g.
"to my boyfriend from your main man on his birthday"
 
Forget acceptance, forget tolerance and simply embrace apathy. Best course of action, ever.

If people stopped caring about gender, race, skin colour, sexual preferences and all that jazz, the world would be such a nicer place. None of it can be changed anyway, so who really gives a damn about it? "Why do you give a damn about this?" is a question I've wondered for a long time. If you can get fired for being gay, then don't tell your boss you're gay. Straight people don't tell their boss that they're straight, so why should you?

Job done. :creep:
 
[quote name='Wintrale' post='3761178' date='Jul 7 2011, 03:54 PM']Forget acceptance, forget tolerance and simply embrace apathy. Best course of action, ever.

If people stopped caring about gender, race, skin colour, sexual preferences and all that jazz, the world would be such a nicer place. None of it can be changed anyway, so who really gives a damn about it? "Why do you give a damn about this?" is a question I've wondered for a long time. If you can get fired for being gay, then don't tell your boss you're gay. Straight people don't tell their boss that they're straight, so why should you?

Job done. :creep:[/quote]

soo true

remind me of when a friend came up to be a took a deep breath and said "ive got to tell you..... im Gay"
i just was like "oh ok"
he said "doesnt that bother you"
i reply "no not really, i actually thought you where"
he said "why you think so?"
me "the way you look at guys"
him "oh but still doesn't it like scare you"
me "what i scared about?"
him "people knowing you have a gay friend"
me" your not the only gay friend i have"

then he got into it about why doesnt it bother me and stuff
and like "what if 2 blokes kissed and you saw"
i just said "if there not interfering with me its all good"
 
[quote name='Wintrale' post='3761178' date='Jul 7 2011, 03:54 PM']If people stopped caring about gender, race, skin colour, sexual preferences and all that jazz, the world would be such a nicer place.[/quote]

Religious war would take over as there'd be nothing else to argue about and we'd destroy the world.
 
[quote name='Wintrale' post='3761178' date='Jul 7 2011, 09:54 AM']Forget acceptance, forget tolerance and simply embrace apathy. Best course of action, ever.

If people stopped caring about gender, race, skin colour, sexual preferences and all that jazz, the world would be such a nicer place. None of it can be changed anyway, so who really gives a damn about it? "Why do you give a damn about this?" is a question I've wondered for a long time. If you can get fired for being gay, then don't tell your boss you're gay. Straight people don't tell their boss that they're straight, so why should you?[/quote]
Except if someone found out I'm straight or either It comes up in a conversation somehow, I'm not going to get fired for it.

It doesn't even have to come up during work. Someone may see or hear some other way.
 
[quote name='Pong20302000' post='3761186' date='Jul 7 2011, 03:59 PM']soo true

remind me of when a friend came up to be a took a deep breath and said "ive got to tell you..... im Gay"
i just was like "oh ok"
he said "doesnt that bother you"
i reply "no not really, i actually thought you where"
he said "why you think so?"
me "the way you look at guys"
him "oh but still doesn't it like scare you"
me "what i scared about?"
him "people knowing you have a gay friend"
me" your not the only gay friend i have"

then he got into it about why doesnt it bother me and stuff
and like "what if 2 blokes kissed and you saw"
i just said "if there not interfering with me its all good"[/quote]
I was in that situation as well, just I was the gay guy and the straight guy was my friend :P
 
[quote name='30084pm' post='3761198' date='Jul 7 2011, 04:04 PM'][quote name='Pong20302000' post='3761186' date='Jul 7 2011, 03:59 PM']soo true

remind me of when a friend came up to be a took a deep breath and said "ive got to tell you..... im Gay"
i just was like "oh ok"
he said "doesnt that bother you"
i reply "no not really, i actually thought you where"
he said "why you think so?"
me "the way you look at guys"
him "oh but still doesn't it like scare you"
me "what i scared about?"
him "people knowing you have a gay friend"
me" your not the only gay friend i have"

then he got into it about why doesnt it bother me and stuff
and like "what if 2 blokes kissed and you saw"
i just said "if there not interfering with me its all good"[/quote]
I was in that situation as well, just I was the gay guy and the straight guy was my friend :P
[/quote]

lol i met this person at 3DS launch
 
[quote name='Pong20302000' post='3761206' date='Jul 7 2011, 04:08 PM'][quote name='30084pm' post='3761198' date='Jul 7 2011, 04:04 PM'][quote name='Pong20302000' post='3761186' date='Jul 7 2011, 03:59 PM']soo true

remind me of when a friend came up to be a took a deep breath and said "ive got to tell you..... im Gay"
i just was like "oh ok"
he said "doesnt that bother you"
i reply "no not really, i actually thought you where"
he said "why you think so?"
me "the way you look at guys"
him "oh but still doesn't it like scare you"
me "what i scared about?"
him "people knowing you have a gay friend"
me" your not the only gay friend i have"

then he got into it about why doesnt it bother me and stuff
and like "what if 2 blokes kissed and you saw"
i just said "if there not interfering with me its all good"[/quote]
I was in that situation as well, just I was the gay guy and the straight guy was my friend :P
[/quote]

lol i met this person at 3DS launch
[/quote]
you can't blame him though. the general consensus for straight guys is to get really uncomfortable. he was probably just confused about how accepting you were :P
 
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJxOHD3Bsrw[/youtube]

this song is all about "Tolerance" if you have never seen this you should watch.
 
Respecting everyone's opinion in this thread

It's time for me to put my two cents in this matter:

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Personal opinion: Homosexuality is unnatural. However, I have no problem with them. However, I can't stand when people flaunt their gayness at me. I see screen names, gamer tags and the like that are like "Gaydude78" a lot lately and it's somewhat annoying. Like furries that have to remind you about it all the damn time. Can anyone guess what I am? No? That's because it's not important to anything I have to say on this site. I hope no homosexuals take offense to what I've said, cause as I said, I have no problem with you.
 
[quote name='DxEggman' post='3761375' date='Jul 7 2011, 12:36 PM']Personal opinion: Homosexuality is unnatural. However, I have no problem with them. However, I can't stand when people flaunt their gayness at me. I see screen names, gamer tags and the like that are like "Gaydude78" a lot lately and it's somewhat annoying. Like furries that have to remind you about it all the damn time. Can anyone guess what I am? No? That's because it's not important to anything I have to say on this site. I hope no homosexuals take offense to what I've said, cause as I said, I have no problem with you.[/quote]

Oh boy.. Not again with this page. It is getting out of control, man.

Anyway, how do you know that homosexuality is unnatural ?
 
[quote name='lilsypha' post='3761168' date='Jul 7 2011, 03:45 PM'][quote name='xist' post='3761143' date='Jul 7 2011, 06:30 AM']lilsypha, that sounds like the US is totally messed up with respect to Human and Civil Rights and Equality. That's far from the case in other places around the world.[/quote]

You bet. I'm just trying to offer some insight as to why it's an issue people are fighting for over here. Me, I live in Canada where it's a shade more liberal, but the marriage vs. civil union thing is still just as much of a problem here as it is there. It's the deep-seated religious foundation that's the core root of the problem -- separate church and state, and oh the wonders.......
[/quote]

I'd just like to point out that the US is not totally messed up with respect to human, civil rights, and equality. In the US we have a system that's self correcting. We have a system where people can debate openly. We have a system where laws can be changed like in New York. Try doing that in China. Try having a gay parade in Iran or Saudi Arabia. Do you what they do to gays in places like that? You're fee in the US to move to a state that recognizes gay marriage and live with all the privileges accorded heterosexual couples. You can live how ever you want here and no one stone you to death. The real question I have is for Europe the UK in particular. Will they be able to hold on to gay rights fifty years from now when Muslims are the majority. It's an interesting thought. I don;t think think so. The US isn't facing that type of demographic shift.
 
[quote name='dickfour' post='3761388' date='Jul 7 2011, 08:45 AM']You're fee in the US to move to a state that recognizes gay marriage and live with all the privileges accorded heterosexual couples.[/quote]

The problem is, there isn't a state offering that. :P

While New York now allows civil unions, the federal laws that don't recognize civil unions are all still there. Sure, now you can get "married" there, but you still get none of the rights.
 
[quote name='lilsypha' post='3761520' date='Jul 7 2011, 07:05 PM'][quote name='dickfour' post='3761388' date='Jul 7 2011, 08:45 AM']You're fee in the US to move to a state that recognizes gay marriage and live with all the privileges accorded heterosexual couples.[/quote]

The problem is, there isn't a state offering that. :P

While New York now allows civil unions, the federal laws that don't recognize civil unions are all still there. Sure, now you can get "married" there, but you still get none of the rights.
[/quote]
How long do you think that will last. DOMA is all ready being challenged and the Obama administration has filed a brief against it. It's only a matter of time before DOMA is considered unconstitutional. Looks to me like the USA is still a great and fee country. So you should think before you run down America and save your criticism for countries that don't allow free debate.
 
I don't tend to put myself in the middle of controversial arguments such as this, but I would like to make an interesting observation (not a condemnation, merely an observation, take it as you will).

Personally, as a Christian, I believe homosexuality is neither natural nor acceptable (I also believe it is wrong to be a total @$$hole to someone for any reason, so I'm not hating here. I may not agree with your lifestyle decisions, but I've made more than my fair share of decisions that go against my own beliefs so I have no pedestal to stand upon and look down). So on the one hand, I believe that it's wrong because God says it is. But the interesting thing here is that if you remove God from the picture entirely and adopt a purely Darwinian worldview, homosexuality is certainly not a trait which lends itself to the survival of the human species, and therefore can't even be considered natural in that case either.

So the fact is, homosexuality won't really ever be viewed as natural to most people due to the simple fact that it isn't. Call me a religious bigot if you like, but even Darwinian evolution is against you on this one.
 
[quote name='qwertymodo' post='3762212' date='Jul 7 2011, 10:00 PM']I don't tend to put myself in the middle of controversial arguments such as this, but I would like to make an interesting observation (not a condemnation, merely an observation, take it as you will).

Personally, as a Christian, I believe homosexuality is neither natural nor acceptable (I also believe it is wrong to be a total @$$hole to someone for any reason, so I'm not hating here. I may not agree with your lifestyle decisions, but I've made more than my fair share of decisions that go against my own beliefs so I have no pedestal to stand upon and look down). So on the one hand, I believe that it's wrong because God says it is. But the interesting thing here is that if you remove God from the picture entirely and adopt a purely Darwinian worldview, homosexuality is certainly not a trait which lends itself to the survival of the human species, and therefore can't even be considered natural in that case either.

So the fact is, homosexuality won't really ever be viewed as natural to most people due to the simple fact that it isn't. Call me a religious bigot if you like, but even Darwinian evolution is against you on this one.[/quote]

Really ? I am religious as well but it doesn't mean God says it is.. If you read bible very very carefully.. you will raise a question about mistranslated and misinterpreted. Therefore, Jesus never mention about Homosexuality in the bible. However, there is something interesting about the bible. Read them all and reread them. I have been studied it for over 1 years. Here:

http://www.religioustolerance.org/hom_bibh5.htm
http://www.religioustolerance.org/hom_bmar.htm
http://www.religioustolerance.org/hom_bibx.htm
http://www.soulforce.org/article/homosexua...e-gay-christian
 

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