Drug price jumps from $20 to $1500

[Schizoanalysis]

Welcome to capitalism.

Capitalism has nothing to do with it. Welcome to exploiting loopholes in laws that were meant to protect people.

Ah... protect people from what? Greed for money? That's a byproduct of capitalism.

Capitalism: more capital = more win!

 

[stanleyopar2000]

Welcome to capitalism.

Capitalism has nothing to do with it. Welcome to exploiting loopholes in laws that were meant to protect people.

Sony loves "democracy"

 

[foxgrey]

This has nothing to due with capitalism. Its the intellectual property laws that dictate this kind of outrage.

Same thing that happens with copyrights, and trademarks. Its all out of hand, and I agree there is a lot of corruption involved that keeps the wheels turning.

We need more public domain, and less walled gardens!

 

[Schizoanalysis]

This has nothing to due with capitalism. Its the intellectual property laws that dictate this kind of outrage.

Same thing that happens with copyrights, and trademarks. Its all out of hand, and I agree there is a lot of corruption involved that keeps the wheels turning.

And what is the main prize driving this corruption? Money.


Paint it any way you like. It is the want of money driving it.


And what is capitalism? A society centered around capital. And what is capital? Money.

 

[Recorderdude]

this is population control. if you get pregnant and the baby is born premature, do what you can to save it, otherwise, try again, there was something wrong. sorry but thats life. my wife is pregnant and if we lose the baby that sucks move on and try again.

I'm sorry, that is absolutely awful. You're showing no remorse about the loss of a HUMAN LIFE that could have been saved, let alone one that you're part of.

You and your wife are young, sure, you can get back in the bed and have her pregnant again in no time. A lot of older people or people with tough conditions only get one go at a child, if that. My dad was 38 when he had me, and the doctors had told my mom for about a year and a half that she couldn't ever have a child. If I was premature and died due to the fact that mom and dad couldn't pay for the medicine that could've saved me, do you think my mom and dad could "move on and try again"?

Consider your thoughts before expressing them, sir. And think.

 

[Santee]

Nvm I misread.

 

[Recorderdude]

On another note condoms; still dirt cheap.

nvm you misread

 

[notmeanymore]

If there is a prescription form of a drug, it is illegal to compound it.

That's absurd

I really don't know what to say. It's mind-bogglingly stupid.

This isn't the problem. This is in place because the prescription form has been thoroughly tested by the FDA, and they don't want people getting hurt/killed because the drug was compounded wrong. The price hike is the main issue of this thread.

 

[Vigilante]

to FDA

 

[Veho]

this has very little to do with drug companies and everything to do with big government regulation, corrupt politicians, and a corrupt FDA. If there was less government regulation these things would not happen but hey lets fix this with a big Socialist government and lots of regulation and make things worse.
>implying the FDA wasn't corrupt from the start
>implying the law/regulation in this case wasn't in place since before the "Socialist" regulation
A government-financed healthcare would much prefer a $20 drug to a $1500 one, and the regulations were put in place to prevent things like this. You can't blame everything on Socialism.

Ah... protect people from what? Greed for money? That's a byproduct of capitalism.
To protect people from poison. That's what the FDA should be doing. And a monopoly is the opposite of a free market and therefore not capitalism.

QUOTE(TehSkull @ Mar 11 2011, 04:33 AM)

This is in place because the prescription form has been thoroughly tested by the FDA, and they don't want people getting hurt/killed because the drug was compounded wrong.

But they were perfectly fine with the compounded drug before the prescription version came out? I smell a rat.

 

[Vulpes Abnocto]

Then again, this also means if women want a healthy baby then don't smoke and drink!

Because that's what this drug counteracts, right?
It's mentioned explicitly in the article, I'm sure.
It's got to say something about "This will be a huge blow to all the alcoholic and cigarette addicted mothers in America"

Because if it doesn't you wouldn't say something nearly so condescending, self-centered and self-congratulatory, right?



Just get the fuck out.

 

[Densetsu]

Med Skoo 101

"Big Pharma" has one role, and one role only. It's not to ensure that its drugs make people better. Its ONLY role is to make its shareholders happy. If they're not happy, they stop investing, and Big Pharma goes down. The only way Big Pharma can keep its shareholders happy is to make money, and the only way they can make money is by patenting drugs. And once the patent on a drug runs out, all they do is tweak a tiny little functional group on the molecule of the old drug so that it's technically a new drug and therefore they can get a new patent. Who cares if it works as well as the old drug, sometimes it's less effective after they've tweaked it. But as long as they got their new patent, that's all that matters to them.

Yeah, this has EVERYTHING to do with money. The OP is right. I can't fathom why anyone would think otherwise.

this has very little to do with drug companies and everything to do with big government regulation, corrupt politicians, and a corrupt FDA. If there was less government regulation these things would not happen but hey lets fix this with a big Socialist government and lots of regulation and makr e things worse. This is all part of that mess of a 2000 page health care bill that democrats passed. The drug companies were brought in and payed off for their support. Is anyone really surprised that this happened? Get ready for more of the same.Explain to me what you think socialism means. Did you know we already have a lot of socialist institutions in place in the US? No one's complaining about our socialist public education system, or our socialist libraries, or our socialist fire departments. Socialized medicine works well in every other developed nation in the world, but socialism carries a stigma in the US because of the Cuban Missile Crisis and the anti-socialist propaganda that followed and has pervaded American mentality to this day. Why, we're a bunch of Fidel Castros!

this is population control. if you get pregnant and the baby is born premature, do what you can to save it, otherwise, try again, there was something wrong. sorry but thats life. my wife is pregnant and if we lose the baby that sucks move on and try again.How very...calloused.

QUOTE(Canonbeat234 @ Mar 10 2011, 09:08 PM)

Then again, this also means if women want a healthy baby then don't smoke and drink!

That's not the only cause of premature babies. Sometimes completely healthy women can go into labor early as well.

 

[BlueStar]

And to think I was pissed-off when prescription charges in England went up to £7.30 per drugs course.

 

[FAST6191]

Do they still have to tweak functional groups these days Densetsu9000? if so they need to take a look at some of the plastics people (change another random part keeping the functional group the same- find any chemical changes.... higher glass temperature or something makes for a more stable compound (or I suppose in medicine delivery mechanism).... nice new patent).
On the other hand there is that changes to the same functional group ruling (pharma patents/IP are a bit outside what I do but the idea was that the pill can be one thing but after ingestion it changes into something else (that may be covered by a patent)- the changes of opiates inside the brain would be an example of the chemistry).


@ others a nice video for this sort of thing (the chemistry and pharmacology basics) http://mitworld.mit.edu/video/342

"or our socialist fire departments"
Not that I am questioning your intention but are there not some fairly interesting cases of jurisdiction (tax) and response?

 

[VashTS]

this is population control. if you get pregnant and the baby is born premature, do what you can to save it, otherwise, try again, there was something wrong. sorry but thats life. my wife is pregnant and if we lose the baby that sucks move on and try again.

I'm sorry, that is absolutely awful. You're showing no remorse about the loss of a HUMAN LIFE that could have been saved, let alone one that you're part of.

You and your wife are young, sure, you can get back in the bed and have her pregnant again in no time. A lot of older people or people with tough conditions only get one go at a child, if that. My dad was 38 when he had me, and the doctors had told my mom for about a year and a half that she couldn't ever have a child. If I was premature and died due to the fact that mom and dad couldn't pay for the medicine that could've saved me, do you think my mom and dad could "move on and try again"?

Consider your thoughts before expressing them, sir. And think.

We could debate about the human life concept, scientists and drs can't even say if a fetus is life. i know because i asked my doctor if my kid was thinking in there, he said no one knows. what you fail to understand about my comment is that life works this way naturally. if you can't have a kid, there is a REASON for it. by manipulating the inherent nature of the body, it can cause some problems. i would take a guess and say that you have some type of condition. correct me if i'm wrong, but usually thats what happens. if you can't have a kid, sorry, it sucks, but again that is life.

 

[Veho]

if you can't have a kid, there is a REASON for it. by manipulating the inherent nature of the body, it can cause some problems.

The same could be said for any ailment. Next time you're sick, remember that there's a REASON for it and that taking medicine is unnatural. According to you, that is.

 

[Hop2089]

This is basically just a measure to discourage childbirth by poor people and drug companies trying to get unfair profit from insurance companies and from those who can afford it.

 

[Recorderdude]

this is population control. if you get pregnant and the baby is born premature, do what you can to save it, otherwise, try again, there was something wrong. sorry but thats life. my wife is pregnant and if we lose the baby that sucks move on and try again.

I'm sorry, that is absolutely awful. You're showing no remorse about the loss of a HUMAN LIFE that could have been saved, let alone one that you're part of.

You and your wife are young, sure, you can get back in the bed and have her pregnant again in no time. A lot of older people or people with tough conditions only get one go at a child, if that. My dad was 38 when he had me, and the doctors had told my mom for about a year and a half that she couldn't ever have a child. If I was premature and died due to the fact that mom and dad couldn't pay for the medicine that could've saved me, do you think my mom and dad could "move on and try again"?

Consider your thoughts before expressing them, sir. And think.

We could debate about the human life concept, scientists and drs can't even say if a fetus is life. i know because i asked my doctor if my kid was thinking in there, he said no one knows. what you fail to understand about my comment is that life works this way naturally. if you can't have a kid, there is a REASON for it. by manipulating the inherent nature of the body, it can cause some problems. i would take a guess and say that you have some type of condition. correct me if i'm wrong, but usually thats what happens. if you can't have a kid, sorry, it sucks, but again that is life.

I understand what you're saying, but no, I'm perfectly healthy.

Still, opinions will always differ, and that's part of why people discuss things like this in the first place.

 

[ProtoKun7]

That's a pretty stupid thing to do; to make that decision and have the price ramp up as a result.

We could debate about the human life concept, scientists and drs can't even say if a fetus is life.

I can, because it is.

 

[Berthenk]

Shit like this makes me happy I live in the Netherlands.
Seriously though. Why the fuck is this shit even allowed?