BTW, even the NES had anti-piracy measures.Pingouin7 said:
For example:
This was from the unreleased [US version of] MOTHER 1 for the NES.
For example:
This was from the unreleased [US version of] MOTHER 1 for the NES.
YayMii said:BTW, even the NES had anti-piracy measures.
For example:
This was from the unreleased [US version of] MOTHER 1 for the NES.
AH that was it, Mother 1. That's the ending screen my friend got on his emulator XD
I think the flashcart compares the header data with the one in it's database. If it matches, the database tells the firmware how to patch the game. If it doesn't, i think it just figures what save size it uses and creates an appropriate save.
Correct me if wrong Normmatt D:
Correct me if wrong Normmatt D:
If games were patched externally (like with XDelta) probably doesn't matter, does it?Normmatt said:Wrong again!
They do reads below 8000h which on official games still be redirected to 8000h in the rom while on flashcarts it isnt redirected and as such its easy to see its a flashcart, its not a simple fix either though, as the checks use their own read card function which isn't patched and as such reads need to be quick which they aren't unless the routine is patched
Why do flashcarts do not redirect as game cards do? I'm not sure what data lies below the 8000h memory address as well.
Also, in short a flashcart does not emulate a game card perfectly which is how game developers are able to place code to detect flashcarts?
Because not all flashcarts patch the game in the same way. Not to mention some flashcarts just plain suck ass.Normmatt said:
HoTsHoT89 said:If games were patched externally (like with XDelta) probably doesn't matter, does it?Normmatt said:Wrong again!
They do reads below 8000h which on official games still be redirected to 8000h in the rom while on flashcarts it isnt redirected and as such its easy to see its a flashcart, its not a simple fix either though, as the checks use their own read card function which isn't patched and as such reads need to be quick which they aren't unless the routine is patched
Why do flashcarts do not redirect as game cards do? I'm not sure what data lies below the 8000h memory address as well.
Also, in short a flashcart does not emulate a game card perfectly which is how game developers are able to place code to detect flashcarts?
Because not all flashcarts patch the game in the same way. Not to mention some flashcarts just plain suck ass.Normmatt said:
As i said the function thats does the read below 8000h is very strictly timed, if you return data to slow (flashcarts) it doesn't work. This can't be helped sadly.
Flashcarts patch more than just Antipiracy routines they patch the read card routine to read from the sd and they patch the save routines to read/write to the sd. They all do these patches in different ways patching different functions.
so like the previous poster said, there are several extremely minor ways that flash carts do not identically mirror the physical cartridges' run routes, and the AP's specifically target these variances. Right?
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Indeed, AP is already getting tougher on us, and last thing we need is AP that takes the hackers years to crack.Blaze163 said:
Normmatt said:
^ This.
...then again, that would raise the amount of "HLP PLZZZZ! THS DUZ NAWT WURK AWN 'R4i NEO GOLD SUPER ULTRA WITH 4 PETABYTES OF INTERNAL MEMORY AND SUPER ULTRA III UPGRADE PLATINUM SILVER DELUXE DSI 4.5 COMPATIBLE WITH BUILT IN FLUX CAPICITOR' HLP PLZZZ I NEEDZ 2 PLAAY THIS AWN R4!!!" comments, which is a BAD thing as noone likes noobs.
...then again the more damage to the crap R4 clones, the better.
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But get the angle just right and shoot AROUND the Sun & you can go back in time & alter history to make the R4 the best card ever !!!Lacius said:
Last thing we need is a level 12 shockwave destroying everything in the star system D:Lacius said:
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like you port everything to pc except the one game where it would make the most sense. why. what do you gain from this
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is sega just personally fucking with me? are they laughing while watching me through my kinect camera as i get up to restart my xbox for the third time because the game froze again
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