Is scamming scammers morally wrong?

[Norris]

Recently I've been doing this thing called telegram hamming which is essentially a scam where you "sell" other peoples debit card and credit card information. However I just send random info after the purchase is made. I've made 80$ doing this in the span of a couple hours and normally sell a debit card for 15-20$ is this morally wrong? Cause yes I scamming but the people I'm selling the information too would be stealing hundreds to thousands off innocent people I'm just stealing 15$-30$ from people who are trying to illegal buy debit card and credit card information.

 

[Kioku]

I mean, you’re really no better… But, what are they gonna do? Call the cops?

 

[DinohScene]

Yes, you're actively contributing to the problem.

 

[Vetusomaru]

Yes, you are a scammer. And no, nobody will praise you just because your targets are also scammers.

 

[Jayro]

Eye for an eye, I say. If you're gonna hit a scammer, hit 'em hard so they can't scam anymore, or don't even bother.

(And just so we're clear, I'm not advocating violence, I'm suggesting you lighten their wallets so they can't scam anymore.)

 

[Norris]

Yes, you're actively contributing to the problem.

How am I making the problem worse? In reality it would make them less likely to scam if they keep getting sold fake cards? Thats what the cia did with illegal content on the dark web. Just flood it with scam pages and honey potsm

 

[Seriel]

Thats what the cia did

The problem here is that you are not the CIA. You are a citizen committing a crime. Whether that crime is against someone who also commits crimes is not relevant in this case. That is however legal and not moral.

I would certainly raise an eyebrow if your moral justification starts with "but the CIA did it". But morals are opinions, and my opinion is that these acts make you no better than the others doing them, regardless of the target. At the end of the day, whether it's morally right in your view is up to you.

 

[Vetusomaru]

How am I making the problem worse? In reality it would make them less likely to scam if they keep getting sold fake cards? Thats what the cia did with illegal content on the dark web. Just flood it with scam pages and honey potsm

"What I do is morally right because CIA also do it!"

You mean same CIA that raids "problematic" web sites (like 4chan-style image boards) with child porn so they can have an excuse to shut them down? That CIA?

 

[Norris]

You are a citizen committing a crime.

 

[impeeza]

You must tolerate the intolerants?

 

[WalterSlovotsky]

Nope. I got a PSP, a PS2 and a custom-printed t-shirt from a scammer back in 2007. Felt absolutely no shame.

 

[AncientBoi]

Morally, I'd say "Shame on you"

Ethically, I'd say "Do it to them"

Thus I'd say

 

[Deleted member 194275]

Here we get a old scam very common in big bus stations. A guy tells somebody that need to board the next bus no matter what, then he try to sell you a valuable item for way cheaper than it cost. Like a gold chain that "worth" 1000 for just 100. Turns out that the item do not have the said value and the thing goes that way, so the victim that was trying to take advantage in a deal over a person in need gets scammed.

What OP is doing is just like that, taking advantage over a person that was trying to take advantage. It's both a crime and morally wrong.

 

[The Real Jdbye]

Recently I've been doing this thing called telegram hamming which is essentially a scam where you "sell" other peoples debit card and credit card information. However I just send random info after the purchase is made. I've made 80$ doing this in the span of a couple hours and normally sell a debit card for 15-20$ is this morally wrong? Cause yes I scamming but the people I'm selling the information too would be stealing hundreds to thousands off innocent people I'm just stealing 15$-30$ from people who are trying to illegal buy debit card and credit card information.

Yes, it's morally wrong because you are profiting from it and the money they gave you is probably stolen.
That should go without saying.

The (somewhat) moral way to do this would be to donate all the profits to scam victims.

 

[Vetusomaru]

Why OP even expects from people to praise him for being a scammer in the first place? This isn't reddit/twitter.

 

[WalterSlovotsky]

Recently I've been doing this thing called telegram hamming which is essentially a scam where you "sell" other peoples debit card and credit card information. However I just send random info after the purchase is made. I've made 80$ doing this in the span of a couple hours and normally sell a debit card for 15-20$ is this morally wrong? Cause yes I scamming but the people I'm selling the information too would be stealing hundreds to thousands off innocent people I'm just stealing 15$-30$ from people who are trying to illegal buy debit card and credit card information.

So... you're a scammer.

This isn''t exactly a noble purpose.

 

[Psionic Roshambo]

Might not be right... but logically speaking this is the scammers business model, I am sure they expect a certain level of expense to make a certain level of profit. If this happens too much perhaps the scammers will change tactics or even business.

 

[smilodon]

Well yes, let's apply the law of exact retaliation in every single situations. Let' see how many days civilization last.