Sony confirms PlayStation Network hacked

[jaxxster]

It's a shame its still down though like 3/4 days later! It's a bit weird that it would take a team like Sony with the resources they have this long to do anything about the issue.

 

[WiiUBricker]

Emulators have nothing to do with pirated games. If you have the original, you can play it on as many emulators as you like. If you DON'T have the original, YOU are the criminal around here.

It's like saying that spoons should be outlawed because you can stab someone in the eye with one.

Then the same could be applied to any flash cart on the market. If you have the original, you can play it on as many flash carts as you like. If you DON'T have the original, YOU are the criminal around here. Right?

Oh wait, downloading games is illegal in most countries, it doesnt matter if you own the original or not

 

[Foxi4]

Since when downloading games is illegal in most countries? It's sharing them that's illegal, not downloading them.

Plus, if you have a game, you don't really need a flash cart, do you?

Don't use reverse psychology on me, you shall fail miserably.

 

[emigre]

Or you make your own back ups?

 

[Guild McCommunist]

Emulators have nothing to do with pirated games. If you have the original, you can play it on as many emulators as you like. If you DON'T have the original, YOU are the criminal around here.

It's like saying that spoons should be outlawed because you can stab someone in the eye with one.

Then the same could be applied to any flash cart on the market. If you have the original, you can play it on as many flash carts as you like. If you DON'T have the original, YOU are the criminal around here. Right?

Oh wait, downloading games is illegal in most countries, it doesnt matter if you own the original or not

I believe Foxi's point is that Nintendo is "attacking" the homebrew community by shutting down (or attempting to shut down) access to flashcarts in their system updates. Yeah, most flashcarts have ROM loading capabilities, but they're marketed as homebrew devices. There's like disclaimers saying to NOT use it for pirating games. But people do anyway.

I mean, I wouldn't say Nintendo has gone as far as Sony has in terms of preventing hacking, but to say they're best buddies with the homebrew community is far from reality.

QUOTE(Foxi4 @ Apr 23 2011, 10:37 PM)

Plus, if you have a game, you don't really need a flash cart, do you?

From a practicality point of view, they definitely have their advantages. I can carry around a flashcart and store 20 games on it that, let's say, I legally own and dumped myself. That sure beats carrying around 20 carts. Of course there's also homebrew.

 

[WiiUBricker]

Since when downloading games is illegal in most countries? It's sharing them that's illegal, not downloading them.

Plus, if you have a game, you don't really need a flash cart, do you?

Don't use reverse psychology on me, you shall fail miserably.

You sir have a serious issue

I let another person teach you. Bye.

 

[dgwillia]

Since when downloading games is illegal in most countries? It's sharing them that's illegal, not downloading them.

Plus, if you have a game, you don't really need a flash cart, do you?

Don't use reverse psychology on me, you shall fail miserably.

Your logic just blew my mind O_O

 

[Foxi4]

Emulators have nothing to do with pirated games. If you have the original, you can play it on as many emulators as you like. If you DON'T have the original, YOU are the criminal around here.

It's like saying that spoons should be outlawed because you can stab someone in the eye with one.

Then the same could be applied to any flash cart on the market. If you have the original, you can play it on as many flash carts as you like. If you DON'T have the original, YOU are the criminal around here. Right?

Oh wait, downloading games is illegal in most countries, it doesnt matter if you own the original or not

I believe Foxi's point is that Nintendo is "attacking" the homebrew community by shutting down (or attempting to shut down) access to flashcarts in their system updates. Yeah, most flashcarts have ROM loading capabilities, but they're marketed as homebrew devices. There's like disclaimers saying to NOT use it for pirating games. But people do anyway.

I mean, I wouldn't say Nintendo has gone as far as Sony has in terms of preventing hacking, but to say they're best buddies with the homebrew community is far from reality.

This 100%

For once, I agree with you completely. The end is nigh.

In all seriousness, every single company is going to get out of their way to stop the homebrew community. Unsigned code leads to too many possible problems. They don't want to fix your consoles that were bricked by faulty code, they don't want you running around in GOD Mode on multiplayer games, they don't want you to pirate games, they don't want you to expand the features of their console when they could just add those features in their next console and get more of your money. Simple, really.

EDIT: I'm glad I blew up a few minds. Cause, y'know. Carrying 20 carts is soooo hard. They're soooo heavy nowadays. I mean, you'd need a truck or something to carry your *20* games.

BUY A GODDAMN BAG.

 

[Nujui]

Since when downloading games is illegal in most countries? It's sharing them that's illegal, not downloading them.

Plus, if you have a game, you don't really need a flash cart, do you?

Don't use reverse psychology on me, you shall fail miserably.

Downloading them is illegal.

Look it up.

And people use flash carts in case the game is broken. Or at least, some people do.

 

[Foxi4]

Since when downloading games is illegal in most countries? It's sharing them that's illegal, not downloading them.

Plus, if you have a game, you don't really need a flash cart, do you?

Don't use reverse psychology on me, you shall fail miserably.

Downloading them is illegal.

Look it up.

And people use flash carts in case the game is broken. Or at least, some people do.

Not here and not in most of the EU it's not. Only sharing copyrighted code is illegal, the person who commits the felony is the hoster, not the downloader. You look it up.

As you may or may not know, Poland is a country in the EU, not a state in the US. You can have your DMCA.

 

[Nujui]

Emulators have nothing to do with pirated games. If you have the original, you can play it on as many emulators as you like. If you DON'T have the original, YOU are the criminal around here.

It's like saying that spoons should be outlawed because you can stab someone in the eye with one.

Then the same could be applied to any flash cart on the market. If you have the original, you can play it on as many flash carts as you like. If you DON'T have the original, YOU are the criminal around here. Right?

Oh wait, downloading games is illegal in most countries, it doesnt matter if you own the original or not

I believe Foxi's point is that Nintendo is "attacking" the homebrew community by shutting down (or attempting to shut down) access to flashcarts in their system updates. Yeah, most flashcarts have ROM loading capabilities, but they're marketed as homebrew devices. There's like disclaimers saying to NOT use it for pirating games. But people do anyway.

I mean, I wouldn't say Nintendo has gone as far as Sony has in terms of preventing hacking, but to say they're best buddies with the homebrew community is far from reality.

This 100%

For once, I agree with you completely. The end is nigh.

In all seriousness, every single company is going to get out of their way to stop the homebrew community. Unsigned code leads to too many possible problems. They don't want to fix your consoles that were bricked by faulty code, they don't want you running around in GOD Mode on multiplayer games, they don't want you to pirate games, they don't want you to expand the features of their console when they could just add those features in their next console and get more of your money. Simple, really.

EDIT: I'm glad I blew up a few minds. Cause, y'know. Carrying 20 carts is soooo hard. They're soooo heavy nowadays. I mean, you'd need a truck or something to carry your *20* games.

BUY A GODDAMN BAG.

If people want to put there games in flash carts, then that's there decision. It's a lot better than taking a bag full of 20 ds games.

I don't think many people would like that.

 

[dgwillia]

I didnt mean mind-blown in a good way

 

[NiGHtS]

It's a sad day for PSN users when 'the good guys' screw you over.

IMHO, I honestly hope Sony hires a team of super hackers for NGP security. As much fun as PSP Homebrew and PS3 hacking is, I think the line has been crossed.

 

[Foxi4]

I didnt mean mind-blown in a good way

 

[Nujui]

It is illegal as long as someone still holds publishing rights to it.

Please tell me if that's wrong.

 

[Foxi4]

...are you reffering to the ESA-Protected files, by any chance?

 

[Nujui]

...are you reffering to the ESA-Protected files, by any chance?

No. I looked up, it is illlegal to download games, on google, and that's what keeps coming up.

Am I wrong? Please tell me if I am.

 

[[M]artin]

Been half a week and I still haven't been able to activate my PS3/Steam cross-platform codes for my shiny new Portal 2... and I don't even own a PS3!

Sony fucked up big on this one, on the worst possible release week too.

 

[Foxi4]

@Duskye It pops up with so often because it's a popular misconception. The act of "downloading" is not illegal, it's the act of illegal distribution that's an offence. Unless there have been some major changes in law that I haven't heard of.

To clarify - if you have the original game and you "broke" the storage device you stored it on, you're free to download the exact same game (region and language included) because technically, you already own it.

Also, if you're downloading via Torrent, you're *unwillingly* but *still* distributing content.

 

[Nujui]

@Duskye It pops up with so often because it's a popular misconception. The act of "downloading" is not illegal, it's the act of illegal distribution that's an offence. Unless there have been some major changes in law that I haven't heard of.

To clarify - if you have the original game and you "broke" the storage device you stored it on, you're free to download the exact same game (region and language included) because technically, you already own it.

Not from what I hear from many people.

There was a similar thread where someone said that you could download the game if you own it.

People kept saying it's illegal to do so.