I live in Brazil, a country that tried to end capitalism for 13 years and look at the deep shit we're in right now, and how our new right wing capitalist government is making everything good again.
Germany is doomed if that's the case, Germany has been doomed for a long time because of the stupid self hating left.
Never thought I'd say this, but we need another Hitler.
You're not even wrong, you're just stupid fascist. PT did nothing to end capitalism; you did the same thing most other capitalist countries do, create a bubble fueled by cronyism and now the poor have to pay for it; your beautiful government has more people indicted for corruption than the previous one, starting right at the president.
And fuck Hitler - although he'd do more for the economy than any other idiot by just printing money and making money flow again.
Most people really have no clue at all and just don't care, that's actually why the Brexit happened
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I guess news in most part of the world only show a small part of the big thing and the first thing they usually show is Merkel telling everyone to come to Europe ...
Brexit happened because people are tired of getting poorer and know nothing will change inside the EU. The riots will start when people are fed up of the rulers keeping the capitalists fed at the cost of everyone else.
Merkel allowing the immigrants in was probably the only humanitarian thing she did her whole life, but don't worry, she's more than willing to pay Erdogan do "deal" with the problem.
Socialism is a political system that works by revoking ownership, controlling the economy and dictating peoples lifes.
Libertarian Socialism doesn't much care for any of that (other than a bit of control over the economy, because otherwise capitalists will keep getting most of it. I think it's the most likely form to be successful.
As for capitalism being the "cancer that's killing us", it's absolutely false - capitalism is the driving force of progress. Before the dynamic duo of capitalism and democracy came along, the history of mankind consisted of a 100 000 years of divisions into feifdoms and constant war over territory and resources. Today we live in some of the most peaceful times in history, crime rates are lowest since the beginning of time, education levels are highest they've ever been and we're not constantly on the verge of poverty anymore because some feudal d*ckhead took all our harvest as payment for an arbitrary tax.
Honestly, that was after socialism and social democracy appeared, unless you think the gilded age with robber barons and company towns was an amazing revolution: it was pretty much the same with different people and a nicer bow.
As for people not being on the verge of poverty... Have you been keeping up with the data since 2008, at least? Nevermind the fact that western wages have been pretty stagnant for the last 40 years.
As for capitalism being the
Capitalism is a system in which the customer is always right and companies are in a constant battle over who can provide goods and services more efficiently and at a better value, capitalism behooves you. Problems occur when corrupt idiots in governments enact regulations that restrict the mechanisms of the free market, create monopolies or make fair competition impossible. In a truly capitalist system citizens can band together against a shitty corporation and run it out of business by providing a better service, which is exactly what Uber is doing to taxi corporations as we speak.
Oh, of course companies only form monopolies when the governments intervene! It certainly didn't happen often when they didn't... like the first three decades of the twentieth century. It was obviously governments that created eternal copyrights too.
I also feel terrible that government regulates food, medication and motor vehicles, let the death toll decide!
Capitalism is the only system that incentivises initiative and self-improvement and rewards hard work and creative, inventive thinking - it's what we need more of, not less.
That's not an argument about how useful any of that is, though, even if it where true. Capitalism has no issue with rewarding companies that don't invent anything and don't need a lot of work either. Not to mention financial companies that barely add anything except skimming from everyone else for their own pockets (The Wolf of Wall Street), especially in the case of HFT.
In fact, inventors are hardly ever rewarded for several reasons: huge patent portfolio of dumb shit by big companies and patent holding companies; no money to sue anyway, and a lot of times not enough money to even patent or market; in some industries, they're always going to be too small to compete - like the processor industry, even AMD can't keep up; no one to invest in them, and no money from shitty wages to bootstrap themselves; venture capitalists, when they actually look at you, take a significant share even though in fact they don't do any work; regulatory compliance is a lot harder - yes, some of it is bought, most of it is necessary; higher costs of manufacturing due to efficiencies of scale, ...
Abuse of the system is illegal. If a company uses unethical practices, it's an opportunity for the competition to run it into the ground. If it breaks the law with impunity, it's a failure of the government which is unable to execute its own laws and as such is unfit for its function - criminals should be behind bars, but someone needs to put them there. I will agree that the weak link here is definitely the human element, as it's the human element that's prone to corruption and vices.
That's if the abuse is illegal, when economic liberals like you claim there's too much regulation.
The market certainly has no issue promoting unethical and law-violating companies -
Pfizer,
Oracle, Microsoft, GlaxoSmithKline, the seven sisters, Coke, Deutsche Bank, Lloyds, Goldman Sachs, Nestlé, Wallmart...
And all these cunts. It even labels boycoters as loonies.
Correction - in both instances it's the citizens who pay for healthcare and education because the government doesn't have any money that belongs to it - the budget of a country consists of tax money. You're paying for both either way, it's just that the payment for public services is cleverly concealed. The problem with public healthcare and education is that you're not just paying for yourself - you're also paying for everybody else.
Well, yeah, that's the point, and it's not concealed at all - it's right there, item by item on the national budget, which is much more detailed and with a lot less lies than most company reports. Even if predictions are wrong, you'll know the exact numbers by march next year.
You pay your fair share (in theory), and you'll be taken care of to some extent from birth to death. It's not a good deal if you're rich and never have any tragedies in your life - but then, neither is it a good deal for everyone else that you're paying your employes so little that everyone else has to take care of them. I suppose that if you aren't bothered with homeless, disabled, mentally ill, people with the wrong genes that give them terrible and debilitating diseases, minorities, etc dying, than it's great. It also stops them from ransacking your property to eat, but hey.
We should probably start out by saying that we're having this conversation because several corporations had a vested interest in providing us with computer hardware and software as well as providing us with the Internet service that allows us to communicate over long distances. This conversation exists because it was profitable for someone to give us the capability to have it..
We should probably start out by saying that without the US government's money there would be no internet and that we, at best, would be on different networks with tons of filters and control. There certainly would be no GBATemp, lol.
Again, your response is uninformed and stupid. It is impossible to not pay into the system, even unemployed people pay into it via VAT. You cannot exist in a European country without paying taxes, so yes, everyone is paying into the pot. Moreover, the fact that everyone is paying for the services in this model rises healthcare and education costs as it's a natural market consequence of getting "free money". By eliminating any incentives to compete for the customer you've effectively created a government monopoly that can charge however much they want without you having a say and provide a shitty service as alternatives are unattainable under the current setup unless you're filthy rich since a private practice has to compete with one that gets "free money" which creates a disparity between their budgets that has to be accounted for when it comes to service fees - one has budget security, the other does not. I know it's hard to understand for a socialist, but perhaps grabbing a book about the basic principles of economy would help.
How cute, you think private healthcare, education and transportation, at least, is cheaper on the private sector AND you still call others uninformed and stupid. You just haven't seen the numbers and the lengths of corruption that happen for that to
appear to be the case.
You have to explain to me why someone shouldn't have millions when they earned them and why someone should have anything at all just because they exist. Work is a necessary element of the equation, if everyone "has enough to survive" just by the virtue of existing, there is no reason to work at all.
Yeah, it's not like people want nicer houses, computers, consoles, games, cell phones, drinks, drugs, cosmetic surgery, nice furniture, a good tv, movies, music, a car, to go out, nice and comfortable clothes, gourmet food, go to the gym, have pets, provide a better life for their descendants. Man, if only...
It's a good thing money only goes to hard workers and not the mostly useless financial system and failed managers then. I mean, in my professional life hard workers are certainly the ones who get all the credit and wage increases and are definitely never fucked over. And I certainly haven't heard it from everyone else either.
It's not like most of the rich don't get there by either inheritance or fucking everyone else over. And like most of the rest had enough money from being born in the right family to be successful. Self-created millionaires is a myth in the 21st century economy.
Not only because they wanted to get rich, but also because the infrastructure that enabled them to create and distribute computers was created by capitalism. Once again you fail to understand how capitalism works.
Like the public road system, the education system, the police. Man, capitalism is great.
[Bill Gates] rendered the whole of humanity a huge service by creating the computing model we use everyday. His product enabled other people to make other products and also benefit, this includes you as practically every facet of our lives includes computers these days. His dedication created hundreds of thousands, if not millions of jobs, and not just in Microsoft, but in general due to the ubiquitous nature of computing.
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He's one of the world's biggest philanthropists and he played a major role in eradicating Polio in India
Seriously, that's your role model? Don't you want to say he invented the PC, the GUI, the spreadsheet, word processing, gaming and the Internet as well? Are you fucking serious? The guy who lied to and betrayed every single business partner, abused and abuses their OS monopoly to force people to use their software, bribed a lot of governments, killed all the credibility of ISO, funneled SCO's ridiculous lawsuit to get rid of competition, sold a console with defective hardware to have higher yield and more sales, killed fucking Nokia, helped create the wet dream of the NSA , lauched OS that purposefully didn't run software from the competition, created sharepoint, calls their software the most generic shit ever, feeds patent trolls, has products with terrible security history, created FUD and the embrace, extend, extinguish business model, wants a TPM and a boot locker in every computing device and so on? Because that made him successful (nevermind all the companies and jobs he trampled over) and he does some tax avoidance?
If only the talk of punishing unethical companies wasn't just complete bullshit talk from economic liberals, we could all be better off.
Now the other thing you're missing here is that Merkel is taking care of your foreigners more than she's taking care of you for the sake of ideals like European Union and trying to be the leader of a tolerant society.
That's bullshit. Not only is it in the Human Rights Convention and in the European Human Rights, the right thing to do is to help fellow humans. That the EU has failed both the refugees and it's own citizens at the same time is just indicative that it has no idea of what it's doing (see also: the euro) and that it should soon implode.
That anyone thinks we should just let them die because they're different and a tiny number of them are violent is just sad and proof that we haven't evolved all that much from 19th century ideology (see also: economic liberals).
