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pure said:I think I know were you're heading and I'm with you on this one. I'd listen to marcan If i were you guys..marcan said:This has nothing to do with piracy and everything to do with using a crappy workaround that's there as a last resort. I'm not going to give details because that's precisely what I want to avoid. The only time we should eve do what our friend here is going to do is when we have no other option and a solid hacking base such as most of the BootMii platform (to ensure that Nintendo can't screw you over again if you do use it). Neither of those two requirements are true at the moment. It'd be nice if Waninkoko didn't decide to update his WAD piracy tools to work with the new firmware using this crappy workaround and then potentially screw everyone over in the future.
Of course he's free to do whatever the hell he wants, but at least I've made my point. If this would have been the only option in the future, and it goes away because of him, new homebrew users that get screwed are going to be so happy with Waninkoko.
except for the function that deletes twilight hack savegames...CockroachMan said:skawo96 said:So, to sum up, you have a choice now, Nintendo or Homebrew.
I still think that the update may be hacked quickly though.
The PSP showed us that everything gets hacked eventually..
btw, Nintendo's doing nothing wrong here.. all the Wii hacking is made through bugs on the Wii system, they're just fixing the bugs.
not for nothing but if people followed the README and FULLY UNDERSTOOD what they were doing before they did it they wouldn't have had "bad permanent consequences", ignorance caused them not waninkoko's program(s)marcan said:Shut up. I know what he's going to do, and it is not a good idea.djdynamite123 said:i like the way waninkoko adds a reply, and marcan has something bad to say about it
It wouldn't be the first time his "dirty workarounds" have had bad permanent consequences.
READMEs don't prevent Nintendo from updating stuff.noobwarrior7 said:I hope we're not talking about using a remaining exploit you guys have known about for a while just to fix this minor problem. That's exactly what Nintendo wants to happen.
It's worse than that. A big exploit takes months to fix in all IOSes, like this one. What Waninkoko wants to do is a lot easier to fix, and also very powerful (it could prove critical in the future, if we really get screwed).
We have big exploits, and we have what he's thinking about.
QUOTE(BL4Z3D247 @ Oct 23 2008, 02:53 PM) not for nothing but if people followed the README and FULLY UNDERSTOOD what they were doing before they did it they wouldn't have had "bad permanent consequences", ignorance caused them not waninkoko's program(s)
never said they did, but Nintendo doesn't MAKE you upgrade you make that decision to do so weather it be for channel update(s) or what have you... before you update your Wii or install apps/programs that could be potentially dangerous to your Wii you should research, if not problems like the ones posted in this thread can/will occurmarcan said:READMEs don't prevent Nintendo from updating stuff.noobwarrior7 said:I hope we're not talking about using a remaining exploit you guys have known about for a while just to fix this minor problem. That's exactly what Nintendo wants to happen.
It's worse than that. A big exploit takes months to fix in all IOSes, like this one. What Waninkoko wants to do is a lot easier to fix, and also very powerful (it could prove critical in the future, if we really get screwed).
We have big exploits, and we have what he's thinking about.
QUOTE(BL4Z3D247 @ Oct 23 2008, 02:53 PM) not for nothing but if people followed the README and FULLY UNDERSTOOD what they were doing before they did it they wouldn't have had "bad permanent consequences", ignorance caused them not waninkoko's program(s)
Yes, yes.BL4Z3D247 said:never said they did, but Nintendo doesn't MAKE you upgrade you make that decision to do so weather it be for channel update(s) or what have you... before you update your Wii or install apps/programs that could be potentially dangerous to your Wii you should research, if not problems like the ones posted in this thread can/will occur
Doesn't help new homebrew users who updated before they knew.
QUOTE(Screemer @ Oct 23 2008, 03:24 PM) am i right here and are you guys working on a solution for that?
thx a lot!MrBubbles said:As for the rest of us, LUCKILY this is not a a system update that brings 3.3 to 3.4. What I mean is that if this isn't something Nintendo decided to change the number, so it probably won't come package with say Animal Crossing. I haven't seen a single Wii game that has a mandatory update not jump versions about.
i have seen a couple of games demanding a update without "version change". one example is lego indy with a 3.2 wii. at least for me i had to install a update from the disc to get it going.
QUOTE(marcan @ Oct 23 2008, 03:32 PM) Yes, yes.
this is true, hopefully someone could sort this out soon for those that have updated or for new homebrew usersmarcan said:Doesn't help new homebrew users who updated before they knew.BL4Z3D247 said:never said they did, but Nintendo doesn't MAKE you upgrade you make that decision to do so weather it be for channel update(s) or what have you... before you update your Wii or install apps/programs that could be potentially dangerous to your Wii you should research, if not problems like the ones posted in this thread can/will occur