Hacking Xecuter SX to pre-order or not?

[210modz]

My post was in response to someone saying he wouldn't care if backup-loading was released tomorrow, because it's only $45 that's admittedly wasted. That sounds

Wasteful thinking would be you thinking that it's any of your business.

 

[PojarNazarovich]

First of all, they maybe rushing thing, but is it seems obvious that for now and for next, at least, 6 month TX product will be a better solution than atmosphere, because you pay for it, and it's pure marketing strategy that there will be a friendly feedback and their product will be tested as hell, cause they understand that if they demands money for product, people on other side demands quality. In case of atmosphere it predictable, that some of units will be bricked, like it always happened with CFW release on any console,plus Scires also rushing his release like TX. Second, backup loader for atmosphere will not exist, again in next 6 month at least, again because of atmosphere will not be fully completed. And for the dongle - its really user friendly method , plus TX give warranty in case of sx pro. It's obvious that atmosphere will be a better, but it will not happens in next 6-12 month

Edit : and about pre orders, people just want to be sure that they will have their SX product. And it's a Russian roulette, maybe tomorrow Scires will upload CFW with backup loader and it all will be pretty damn good, or maybe all RS team will tomorrow die in car accident (i hope not) and CFW will be never released

 

[hellrokr]

You said you don't care if Atmosphere CFW and backup-loading are released today, which arguably disqualifies you from discussing whether or not it's intelligent to pre-order. I can also order the SX OS at any time without doing a pre-order and potentially wasting my money, making the bold assumption that backup-loading won't be a thing by or around June 15.

No, I dont want atmosphere. I know I will have a working solution. Atmosphere has no date, if you wait for it, you may end up waiting 5 years. Because they themselves dont want to support bkacup loading. So, no its not wasting money, I'm buying hardware and the software both. TX has always delivered. If you think I am, thats ok. To each to his own.

 

[Lacius]

Wasteful thinking would be you thinking that it's any of your business.

Please check the title of the thread.

No, I dont want atmosphere. I know I will have a working solution. Atmosphere has no date, if you wait for it, you may end up waiting 5 years. Because they themselves dont want to support bkacup loading. So, no its not wasting money, I'm buying hardware and the software both. TX has always delivered. If you think I am, thats ok. To each to his own.

You don't know what the future holds. It might end up being wasteful.

 

[210modz]

My post was in response to someone saying he wouldn't care if backup-loading was released tomorrow, because it's only $45 that's admittedly wasted. That sounds like wasteful thinking.

Please check the title of the thread.


You don't know what the future holds. It might end up being wasteful.

The title is "Who has order a Xecuter SX?" Not "who is worried about what's inside another man's wallet?"

 

[Lacius]

The title is "Who has order a Xecuter SX?" Not "who is worried about what's inside another man's wallet?"

Xecuter SX to pre-order or not?

 

[210modz]

Xecuter SX to pre-order or not?

I looked at the poll. Same either way.

 

[hellrokr]

Please check the title of the thread.


You don't know what the future holds. It might end up being wasteful.

You don't know what the future holds. It might be the best investment ever.

 

[Lacius]

if you don't want to read discourse regarding whether or not a person should pre-order, you shouldn't be here.

You don't know what the future holds. It might be the best investment ever.

I never claimed to know the future. I merely explained why the smart choice would be to wait.

 

[210modz]

if you don't want to read discourse regarding whether or not a person should pre-order, you shouldn't be here.

If you can't understand that $45 isn't a waste maybe you should find a better job.

 

[Lacius]

If you can't understand that $45 isn't a waste maybe you should find a better job.

Please let me know when you're ready to send me $45 in order to demonstrate your point.

 

[Skylinedeadline]

Regarding whether it's a waste or not doesn't that depend on the buyer's use from the item? If you do preorder, pay 45 and get it June 20th we'll say and Atmosphere hasn't released you've got early backups and cfw. You paid for convenience and early cfw/backups even if it became obsolete you can put atmosphere on the dongle or whatever. If you get use out of it either way it wouldn't be a waste no?

 

[subcon959]

It's interesting that this debate is still going on. I'm actually quite curious why some people are so bothered to see others spending their own money on whatever they choose.

And lets face it, it's all about money otherwise why isn't there a similar argument in the atmosphere thread...

The funny thing is, the pirates who don't want to spend a penny are trying to claim a moral high ground.

 

[210modz]

Please let me know when you're ready to send me $45 in order to demonstrate your point.

Doesn't prove a point but that you are worried about what others spend their money on. You have something to gain by purchasing xecuter sx. Me sending you $45 wouldn't benefit me at all. It would just help you get out of your parents house for a few hours.

 

[Lacius]

Doesn't prove a point but that you are worried about what others spend their money on.

The thread asked for one's opinion, and I merely said pre-ordering doesn't seem like the smarter decision. Speaking economically, pre-ordering something is rarely the smarter decision. There's a thread here asking if digital or physical games are better, and I provided my opinion that physical games are better because one's not losing equity by making the purchase; in other words, they have resale value.

If you don't like discourse, you probably shouldn't be on a website where discourse is its primary function.

You have something to gain by purchasing xecuter sx. Me sending you $45 wouldn't benefit me at all.

You seemed to have missed my point entirely. If a free backup-loading alternative is released tomorrow, then the $45 brought no more benefit than mailing me a check. You also seemed to have missed your own point, because you said $45 can't be a waste because it's only $45.

It would just help you get out of your parents house for a few hours.

I don't live with my parents, and I do just fine financially. Thank you for taking an interest.

 

[210modz]

The thread asked for one's opinion, and I merely said pre-ordering doesn't seem like the smarter decision. Speaking economically, pre-ordering something is rarely the smarter decision. There's a thread here asking if digital or physical games are better, and I provided my opinion that physical games are better because one's not losing equity by making the purchase; in other words, they have resale value.

If you don't like discourse, you probably shouldn't be on a website where discourse is its primary function.


You seemed to have missed my point entirely. If a free backup-loading alternative is released tomorrow, then the $45 brought no more benefit than mailing me a check. You also seemed to have missed your own point, because you said $45 can't be a waste because it's only $45.


I don't live with my parents, and I do just fine financially. Thank you for taking an interest.

Must not be doing too well if your willing to argue with a random person over a $45 purchase. And it doesn't matter if they release a backup loader right now. You are paying for software that will be maintained for profit. Not by a team that just does it when they have time. There's a reason it's free and like most other little shits that now walk this earth, you believe free is better. You get what you pay for.

 

[guitarheroknight]

Don't get why the bickering. If you want a good finished product which does what you want and money is not an issue, why the heck not buy it. Atmosphere is nowhere near done, and if it was it would be barebones with no extra functions other than homebrew launching. But you don't need that either since there is already a working solution.

I bought 11 Pro kits (yes ELEVEN). One for me and 10 for resell, so yeah its worth pre ordering especially for the dongle alone.

 

[Lacius]

Must not be doing too well if your willing to argue with a random person over a $45 purchase. And it doesn't matter if they release a backup loader right now. You are paying for software that will be maintained for profit. Not by a team that just does it when they have time. There's a reason it's free and like most other little shits that now walk this earth, you believe free is better. You get what you pay for.

I wonder how Gateway is doing.

Edit: I guess I'll stick with my sub-par Luma3DS.

 

[zanfire]

I wonder how Gateway is doing.

Edit: I guess I'll stick with my sub-par Luma3DS.

IIRC gateway and sky3ds came out a good while before Luma was easily available. I pre-orded mainly because im on the latest firmware and i know their backuploader is already working. Like others have said, they could release an easy all firmware CFW that does backups tomorrow...or a year from now, we just dont know and id rather pay less than 1 games worth to know i will defiantly have it in a few weeks.

 

[Lacius]

IIRC gateway and sky3ds came out a good while before Luma was easily available.

That's correct. Once CFW was readily available for free, however, people stopped buying Gateway and others. When that happened, support for Gateway and others ceased.