Almost got robbed.

[quote name='BoxShot' post='2850876' date='May 21 2010, 06:14 PM'][quote name='Schizoanalysis' post='2850872' date='May 21 2010, 03:12 PM'][quote name='ifish' post='2850858' date='May 22 2010, 11:06 AM'][quote name='elixirdream' post='2850855' date='May 21 2010, 09:04 PM']i thought guns are pretty common on north america (USA)?[/quote]
Stereotype much?

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That is because guns are legal in USA... in theory, almost anyone can get one (and if you have the cash, the rest can get them easily enough too)...

Compare this to a country in which guns are illegal, and there are far fewer guns... and far fewer gun deaths...


You may say it is a "stereotype", but it is a stereotype born of the prevalence of gun ownership in the USA...
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Which is idiotic. I don't give a shit bout the Constitution saying the right to bear arms. All it does is bring more deaths.
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Wow, this is unfounded and ignorant. I present to you Switzerland, a country with one of the lowest murder rates in the world. Swiss households are legally required to own a firearm, and gun laws are not restrictive. Mexico on the other hand, has some the the most restrictive gun laws in the world, and also the 6th highest murder rates in the world (5th highest in firearm homocide).

See, a little things happen when guns are illegal. Law abiding citizens stop owning them (gasp! I know this is getting complicated, just hang in there). And criminals who don't abide by the law still get their hands on guns, and get them through illegal means such as the black market. Then what happens is the criminals have guns and good, law-abiding people don't have guns, and therefore no way to defend themselves.

I realize this may be an oversimplification, but the fact of the matter is, the issue is far more complicated than "make guns illegal and there will be less gun deaths!!!1!"

[quote name='431unknown' post='2850938' date='May 21 2010, 08:42 PM'][quote name='IchigoSJ' post='2850926' date='May 21 2010, 09:38 PM']Lesson: Next time if someone asks you if you have a cellphone say yes.[/quote]
What would that have done for him? Look you don't give shit to nobody that just encourages them to do it again! Ain't nobody on this planet stealing from me while I walk they'll have to kill me first!
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Why will I say yes? If I said yes then the guy would have stole my cell phone... Good thing I said no nothing got stolen from me. But still my friend I feel sad for him.

[quote name='Jakob95' post='2850903' date='May 21 2010, 05:27 PM']It is illegal to own a gun in New York. Not in the whole USA but in New York it is illegal.[/quote]
Oh really now? Since when. I can get a license to own a handgun from the NYPD, albeit, it'd be a extremely irritating but you can.
Either way do whatever everyone else says (call the police, tell your mom, lie that it's gang related, etc), because that's how the internet works.

[quote name='431unknown' post='2850938' date='May 21 2010, 05:42 PM']What would that have done for him? Look you don't give shit to nobody that just encourages them to do it again! Ain't nobody on this planet stealing from me while I walk they'll have to kill me first![/quote]
And not everyone has the balls, like you do, to stand up to a for themselves. Sad truth.

while I might change my mind if it happens I think I'd just run or tell them no, I mean they know if they shot me they're fucking done, so they definitely wouldn't want to do that without thinking.
and if I get shot then it's not my problem anymore, really..

The way I read the OP it seemed like he asked if you had a cellphone to make sure you couldn't call for help since he came back with more people later.

[quote name='IchigoSJ' post='2850977' date='May 21 2010, 08:58 PM']The way I read the OP it seemed like he asked if you had a cellphone to make sure you couldn't call for help since he came back with more people later.[/quote]
That is true that could have been the reason. Or they could have ask for me to give him my cellphone to use and he then will run away with it.

[quote name='Twiffles' post='2850955' date='May 21 2010, 09:48 PM'][quote name='Jakob95' post='2850903' date='May 21 2010, 05:27 PM']It is illegal to own a gun in New York. Not in the whole USA but in New York it is illegal.[/quote]
Oh really now? Since when. I can get a license to own a handgun from the NYPD, albeit, it'd be a extremely irritating but you can.
Either way do whatever everyone else says (call the police, tell your mom, lie that it's gang related, etc), because that's how the internet works.

[quote name='431unknown' post='2850938' date='May 21 2010, 05:42 PM']What would that have done for him? Look you don't give shit to nobody that just encourages them to do it again! Ain't nobody on this planet stealing from me while I walk they'll have to kill me first![/quote]
And not everyone has the balls, like you do, to stand up to a for themselves. Sad truth.
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Yeah well I know that but this kid needs to realize that between him and his friends they could have fucked this dude up pretty bad gun or no gun. There is always strength in numbers I'm not saying join a gang but make sure that you talk this over with your friends kid and make sure they got your back just incase it would happen again.

[quote name='431unknown' post='2850996' date='May 21 2010, 10:08 PM'][quote name='Twiffles' post='2850955' date='May 21 2010, 09:48 PM'][quote name='Jakob95' post='2850903' date='May 21 2010, 05:27 PM']It is illegal to own a gun in New York. Not in the whole USA but in New York it is illegal.[/quote]
Oh really now? Since when. I can get a license to own a handgun from the NYPD, albeit, it'd be a extremely irritating but you can.
Either way do whatever everyone else says (call the police, tell your mom, lie that it's gang related, etc), because that's how the internet works.

[quote name='431unknown' post='2850938' date='May 21 2010, 05:42 PM']What would that have done for him? Look you don't give shit to nobody that just encourages them to do it again! Ain't nobody on this planet stealing from me while I walk they'll have to kill me first![/quote]
And not everyone has the balls, like you do, to stand up to a for themselves. Sad truth.
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Yeah well I know that but this kid needs to realize that between him and his friends they could have fucked this dude up pretty bad gun or no gun. There is always strength in numbers I'm not saying join a gang but make sure that you talk this over with your friends kid and make sure they got your back just incase it would happen again.
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6 unarmed people against 4 with guns they wouldn't have fucked anybody up.

[quote name='IchigoSJ' post='2851018' date='May 21 2010, 10:14 PM'][quote name='431unknown' post='2850996' date='May 21 2010, 10:08 PM'][quote name='Twiffles' post='2850955' date='May 21 2010, 09:48 PM'][quote name='Jakob95' post='2850903' date='May 21 2010, 05:27 PM']It is illegal to own a gun in New York. Not in the whole USA but in New York it is illegal.[/quote]
Oh really now? Since when. I can get a license to own a handgun from the NYPD, albeit, it'd be a extremely irritating but you can.
Either way do whatever everyone else says (call the police, tell your mom, lie that it's gang related, etc), because that's how the internet works.

[quote name='431unknown' post='2850938' date='May 21 2010, 05:42 PM']What would that have done for him? Look you don't give shit to nobody that just encourages them to do it again! Ain't nobody on this planet stealing from me while I walk they'll have to kill me first![/quote]
And not everyone has the balls, like you do, to stand up to a for themselves. Sad truth.
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Yeah well I know that but this kid needs to realize that between him and his friends they could have fucked this dude up pretty bad gun or no gun. There is always strength in numbers I'm not saying join a gang but make sure that you talk this over with your friends kid and make sure they got your back just incase it would happen again.
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6 unarmed people against 4 with guns they wouldn't have fucked anybody up.
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If they would have took the offensive the first time the dick head confronted they they would have and more than likely the others were chicken shit any way and would have ran once they started pounding on the leader.

[quote name='431unknown' post='2851033' date='May 21 2010, 04:21 PM']If they would have took the offensive the first time the dick head confronted they they would have and more than likely the others were chicken shit any way and would have ran once they started pounding on the leader.[/quote]
... You are an idiot. How sure are you they wouldn't just shoot?

They are at a range you know. So most likely it would be *boom* and then his friends would be running away from the guns.

Guys, keep the flames down. no need to back seat mod or anything.

Getting flammy, and pointless. He almost got robbed, end of story

*locks*

owait, i have no power

I'd report to he police if i was you. By letting him rob you, he'd think that you are an easy target and he won't be leaving you alone anytime soon. I've personally never been robbed because the Australian Police do a great job arresting criminals before they do shit to the public so the security here sounds 500% better than yours in America. I made it to senior grade in Kung Fu anyways before i quit (Study related reasons) but if they have guns, i wouldn't bet my chances that they were real. Getting one legally is tough and plus getting one from the black market is risky. Kick them in the groin area as Hatsune Miku suggested and leg it.

start leaving that kinda stuff at home.

[quote name='fgghjjkll' post='2851220' date='May 21 2010, 11:27 PM']I'd report to he police if i was you. By letting him rob you, he'd think that you are an easy target and he won't be leaving you alone anytime soon. I've personally never been robbed because the Australian Police do a great job arresting criminals before they do shit to the public so the security here sounds 500% better than yours in America. I made it to senior grade in Kung Fu anyways before i quit (Study related reasons) but if they have guns, i wouldn't bet my chances that they were real. Getting one legally is tough and plus getting one from the black market is risky. Kick them in the groin area as Hatsune Miku suggested and leg it.[/quote]
great way to get yourself killed, attack a guy with a gun

[quote name='johncenafan427' post='2851248' date='May 21 2010, 11:50 PM']start leaving that kinda stuff at home.[/quote]
what's the point of an MP3 player if you leave it at home?

I live in Las Vegas. I learned my lesson more than once.

1. If you have an expensive phone, don't use it on the street, or just use bluetooth. Hide your phone somewhere other than your pockets. (bookbag, underwear, etc...)

2. Never carry cash. Never. Either get a pre-paid credit card, or open up a bank account and get a debit card.

3. Carry yourself with confidence. A mugger will most likely skip you if he thinks that you will give him a fight of any kind. Walk with a purpose, and never walk with your head down.

Follow these steps and you will almost never have to deal with this shit again.

Damn, hearing shit like this gets me pissed..... I live in Queens too and this happened to me once when I was 15. All I did was yell real loud "HELP!", and they ran away real quick. Hasn't happened since but damn I wish this stuff wouldn't happen.

Welcome to the cruel world. It could happen to anyone and as a victim your stress is just normal. You was smart enough to stay alive and protect your phone too but not smart enough to escape immediately after the first encounter but perhaps it was not possible to move quickly to a safe area ? You really must report such things to the police and talk about. Silence is not a good solution. Now calm down it is not such a big deal... Talk with you friends talk as much you need to you will overcome this. I am sure everybody will agree there was nothing to do except perhaps you could call the police as soon as possible and report this to avoid other possible victims. At least nobody moves nobody get killed. Don't blame the bad guys too much they are just sick and ready for jail or death. GOOD LUCK & PEACE.

You didn't run inside a building?You should've,unless in an residential area,you could've asked to go in a house for a while.But meh,just report it to the police.

I am probably able to understand fully more the situation you are in, I've also been in such a situation with a damn gun in my face.

If i recall well, they didn't take much from me (maybe around 30$ or so) since its all i really had, not even a cell.

With such people you have to know one main thing, despite how cray, messed up, and stupid they are, and they have a gun, the last thing they want is a dead body in the street, so you can rule out the fact that they probably wont kill you. The gun helped them in this case, since even though you guys were probably more than them, you couldn't do anything because of the thing

what you did with your book back thing is genius, ive been doing it ever since; for robbers, muggers etc. they always look for the easiest catch; they wont make such of a fuss going through your bag.

i've been keeping all my valuables in a bag (in a very sneaky pocket, and like only 10$ in my wallet, for if i ever will be in such a situation, id just give him the wallet, and run away screaming like a little girl) and to be honest it just feels safer.

[quote name='Jakob95' post='2850805' date='May 22 2010, 02:44 AM'][quote name='ifish' post='2850776' date='May 21 2010, 07:30 PM']Next time... if they ask if you have an iPod, and you do. say yes..... because if he searches your bag, you are fucked!

i don't believe you, since if somebody had a gun, nobody even a stupid shit head would lie to them....[/quote]
I knew that they wouldn't search my bag since they don't have any time for that crap. I knew he would just check my pockets and stuff. I was so shocked the guy came up to me and asked me you got anything I was like no no I don't i swear they probably believed me since I look like a small kid they where mostly on my friends that are huge.

EDIT: Btw its illegal to own a gun in New York.

EDIT2: I am still a little stressed out about everything, I hope this will never happen again.
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It is not.

You can own a gun in New York. You just can't carry concealed on the street unless you have a permit to do so.

To get a concealed carry permit you need to be one of the following: wealthy, have political influence, and/or celebrity status or in a life threatening situation.

How do I know? Because I live in NYC and I'm going for a gun permit.