Subs are superior to dubs.

Duh, subs are definitely superior to dubs, but some other people think otherwise.

everyone already knows that subs are better than dubs...

also, i'm pretty sure subs can (and often times are) not 100% correct as its almost impossible to translate complicated prose perfectly from one language to another. the only true way imo is to learn the language you're listening to.

Subs = win.

Why do I get the feeling the entire point of this just flew right over everybody's head?

Your sarcasm wasn't very obvious.

Yeah, it wasn't very obvious. /sarcasm

But yeah...it really depends on the sub group just like it depends on the production/licensing company for dubs. Although, the people putting out dubs get paid for it, fansubbers do it for free.

[quote name='Gaisuto' post='2581068' date='Feb 6 2010, 03:52 PM']Why do I get the feeling the entire point of this just flew right over everybody's head?[/quote]
Subs still are better. You're watching failsubs.

The point of this that I didn't really make clear. I prefer dubs over subs for a few reasons that others would probably call nitpicking. Besides the obvious I like watching over reading, it's inconsistancies like this. In pretty much every thing I've ever seen subbed, take this example from Code Geass a while back, I really really nitpick when things are spelled wrong, or sometimes ...how can I explain this. When subs do the literal translation and everybody talks like a middle school english teacher and just uses the most boring and straight forward ways to explain everything. Like think of a character getting really really excited over something, and the sub just reads "Wow, that is amazing!" Yet whatever they're saying, it's sure as hell longer then that.

It just bugs me. However in this case...this is just pure lazyness.

If you wanted good subs, I'd find the good ones through comparison, here: http://ji-hi.net/

I hardly watch animu, but I've seen about the same amount of dubbed vs subbed and I prefer dubbed.
I don't see why subs would be so much better.
Oh the voice acting is so terrible blah blah blah..
I mean, yeah there are times that the voice acting is horrific, but that's pretty rare imo.
usually the voices are fine and people still complain

only real advantage of subs is you can watch a lot more, because there's a lot of subbed stuff that otherwise isnt available in english

Raw>Subs>Dubs

It's best to learn Japanese for optimal understanding of anime.

I like whatever provides funnier lines, engrish, etc be it original material or a goofy translation. But I don't understand why one would be more accurate than the other, they both require translation ?

I prefer the subs, but I like dubs cuz I get pretty tired of reading through hundreds of eps >_>

lol, subs.

fairly sure the group who were subbing this were subbing the series as it aired. they had no idea about how names were properly spelled. seriously, you hear "Ging Freecs", wouldn't you assume Jin Freaks was the proper spelling and it was just some engrish the mangaka put in? i know for sure they corrected it later on as Ging's name is a fairly big plot point for the end of the anime.

[quote name='yuyuyup' post='2581114' date='Feb 6 2010, 06:25 PM']I like whatever provides funnier lines, engrish, etc be it original material or a goofy translation. But I don't understand why one would be more accurate than the other, they both require translation ?[/quote]

weeaboo's complaining its not as accurate as the nippon original. a lot is left out in the translations to a dub and no translations notes, so companies sometimes completely change the intended script. there is also the problem with godawful voice actors, which imo is quite obvious to see the difference in quality, japan has a multitude of schools dedicated to voice acting, whereas america..... has the occasional class where a well known actor (i know vic mignogna does these)has something like 4 people. also the awkwardness that occurs when a va says honorifics in an american fashion.

but then again with dubs you don't get shit like this:

A good video with talking requires good voice acting. Fandubs usually cannot provide that. And the commercial dubs micht be horribly altered (think most popular animé) or non-existant (think most other). So all-wrong names and barf-worthy Engrish are a price I am willing to pay.

b blue's post is win.


subs > dubs unless it is a failsub.. then yeah. dubs don't work to me because i cant imagine those characters having western accents.

[quote name='.Radiant' post='2581128' date='Feb 6 2010, 04:43 PM']fairly sure the group who were subbing this were subbing the series as it aired. they had no idea about how names were properly spelled. seriously, you hear "Ging Freecs", wouldn't you assume Jin Freaks was the proper spelling and it was just some engrish the mangaka put in? i know for sure they corrected it later on as Ging's name is a fairly big plot point for the end of the anime.

[quote name='yuyuyup' post='2581114' date='Feb 6 2010, 06:25 PM']I like whatever provides funnier lines, engrish, etc be it original material or a goofy translation. But I don't understand why one would be more accurate than the other, they both require translation ?[/quote]

weeaboo's complaining its not as accurate as the nippon original. a lot is left out in the translations to a dub and no translations notes, so companies sometimes completely change the intended script. there is also the problem with godawful voice actors, which imo is quite obvious to see the difference in quality, japan has a multitude of schools dedicated to voice acting, whereas america..... has the occasional class where a well known actor (i know vic mignogna does these)has something like 4 people. also the awkwardness that occurs when a va says honorifics in an american fashion.

but then again with dubs you don't get shit like this:


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yep. CHECKMATE

i only get my subs from thoes that that actually know how to translate, unlike many dubbers *cough cough viz cough 4kids*
you dont get TL notes because they take out all the good Japanese comedy

as for me, i don really care, but then again, the channels are only showing anime in sub last i check.

But it's a hard thing to decided, it depends on which anime is it, what genre is it? Sports/Fantasy/H/etc

And it depends on how long have you been watching that series before switching to the format. Case in point, i grew up watching slayers dubbed and after a while, i just gotten so used to it, that recently when slayers revolution was out, i find my self frowning when i was listening to lina's Japanese voice.