Desantis drops out of presidential race

[tabzer]

"If you are not a liberal when you are young, you have no heart, and If you are not a conservative when old, you have no brain"

Maybe everyone's hands are tied. Maybe that's why I reject the polarization.

 

[supermist]

"If you are not a liberal when you are young, you have no heart, and If you are not a conservative when old, you have no brain"

Maybe everyone's hands are tied. Maybe that's why I reject the polarization.

Quote is fake but even if not, it's not applicable to today's standards given how batshit the conservatives became over the last decade.

https://winstonchurchill.org/resources/quotes/quotes-falsely-attributed/

 

[tabzer]

Quote is fake but even if not, it's not applicable to today's standards given how batshit the conservatives became over the last decade.

https://winstonchurchill.org/resources/quotes/quotes-falsely-attributed/

It's a real quote and I never attributed it to Winston Churchill. I don't care who said it first, but only about the sentiment that it conveys.

"Today's standards" don't match the standards of 20+ years ago, and that's kind of the point. I know you hate this, but BOTH PARTIES radically shift over time.

*I even consider it likely that you'll end up quoting it in the future.

 

[x65943]

Quote is fake but even if not, it's not applicable to today's standards given how batshit the conservatives became over the last decade.

https://winstonchurchill.org/resources/quotes/quotes-falsely-attributed/

He never attributed it to Churchill, he was simply sharing it here

It's a common saying among conservatives and in my experience no one ever attributed it to anyone when they told it to me

So a bit goofy to say it's a fake quote when no one was attributing it to anyone in this thread

Still. Whether or not other conservatives are crazy does not affect one's own inner beliefs. For instance most people would probably agree Biden is more conservative than liberal even tho he is a Democrat. In fact most of our Democrats are pretty conservative by European standards

 

[supermist]

Regardless, you don't have a heart or a brain if you identify as a US conservative in 2024.

 

[tabzer]

Regardless, you don't have a heart or a brain if you identify as a US conservative in 2024.

Just admit that you made a mistake and we can come together in the healing process.

 

[titan_tim]

Seems like Trump will win New Hampshire. Nikki may just drop out, or she'll wait for South Carolina's primaries. If she loses in her own home state, then she's really sunk.

 

[tabzer]

Seems like Trump will win New Hampshire. Nikki may just drop out, or she'll wait for South Carolina's primaries. If she loses in her own home state, then she's really sunk.

Honestly I don't think she ever really had a chance. I think it was just theatrics of the GOP to suggest "see, we support the idea of women as leaders", but of course women aren't assertive enough for the patriarchal framework that encompasses the sum of America's political assertation.

If America was ever led by a woman, it wouldn't be the world-dominating force that it is.

What do you think would happen first: America electing a woman as a president, or America electing one of two assholes that want to fast-track totalitarianism?

 

[titan_tim]

Honestly I don't think she ever really had a chance. I think it was just theatrics of the GOP to suggest "see, we support the idea of women as leaders", but of course women aren't assertive enough for the patriarchal framework that encompasses the sum of America's political assertation.

It's a shame, because I've seen a LOT of amazing women in the senate and house. Kamala was one of them. There are lots of videos out there where she nails people to the wall. Now that she's VP, she's barely doing anything. It's not like other countries haven't lead the way with capable women that can show strength.

What do you think would happen first: America electing a woman as a president, or America electing one of two assholes that want to fast-track totalitarianism?

 

[tabzer]

It's a shame, because I've seen a LOT of amazing women in the senate and house. Kamala was one of them. There are lots of videos out there where she nails people to the wall. Now that she's VP, she's barely doing anything. It's not like other countries haven't lead the way with capable women that can show strength.


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Kamala was subservient in the end. That's what counts.

But I do believe that she was subservient throughout, playing a role that was laid out for her.

 

[titan_tim]

Kamala was always subservient in the end.

Can't say for sure why she hasn't come into the spotlight more. If that's the way Biden wanted it, that's pretty crappy. Maybe she's just not in her element as a prosecutorial lawyer. It's a big change going from laying out a logical line of questions to a CEO who was potentially doing shady business, into whatever a VP does.

Honestly, I have zero clue what the exact responsibilities of a VP are. Did Pence do anything? I can probably list more things the first wives did before what a VP has done.

 

[tabzer]

I think the role of VP is more or less a contingency, and in the context of choosing a woman for VP; a kind of platitude.

 

[Chris2055]

VP is there so you have someone to blame when you lose re-election.