Don't worry, they will just come back with a No true Scotsman fallacyBut antifa and BLM tho
Don't worry, they will just come back with a No true Scotsman fallacyBut antifa and BLM tho
This is just the tired same thing both sides nonsense we've heard from you MAGAs over the years.
Too many people try to center the discussion on the fact that we're divided, as if that's the entire problem. It's what we're divided about that's much more important: only one party presents any path forward for this country, while the other consists entirely of contrarians and reactionaries. Hater-ass SOBs basically, who define themselves entirely by what it is they oppose instead of what they hold dear in their own morals and values. It's been nearly a decade since Republicans put forth an actual policy platform at their national convention, and only about a year since the "we are all domestic terrorists" scrawl at that event.
the "intelligent" republican voter here, arguing in bad faith on every pointThe only "rights" I've seen being taken away lately is the recent pride parade issues. Compared to the majority of the democrats fighting "assault weapons" and promoting sanctuary cities which then turn into shitholes. I can't see much of a comparison in terms of immediate issues.
The stuff going on with the LGBT people isn't as targeted as they seem to make it be from what I've seen. Is there something wrong with banning kids from possibly explicit events? If there is, why limit them to that, remove the age limit from burlesque shows as well right?
Everyone is so fixated on Trump, but why? Like keeping the economy good isn't a bad thing right? And Biden has certainly done a ton of harm to it since being in office so where's the issue with him? Where's all the issue with all the other politicians that have openly admitted to things, or been announced that the FBI has stopped "investigating" them. Isn't that a tad odd to anyone else, like a lot of things aren't "conspiracy theories" anymore, they are being openly stated and people still haven't called for them to be punished for things like Trump's whole "scandal".
the "intelligent" republican voter here, arguing in bad faith on every point
anti-trans laws are being put into effect in record numbers, these people are exercising personal liberty
contrasted with restricting guns, which provably saves lives
i can't see much of a comparison, either
"is there something wrong with banning kids from events" man what a spin
isn't it insidious how reasonable it seems until you're actually informed about the laws being put forward and the messaging of the right-wing media
anyway, strawman
and here comes the whataboutism
trump had top secret documents he didn't declassify lying around in his resort, documents about nuclear capabilities, foreign war footings, american military vulnerabilities...
he got indicted after being repeatedly asked to return them and he tried to hide them
this is not the same as biden having documents, being asked to return them, and him going "here ya go, fellas"
not least because those documents weren't lying about unsealed in a public fucking resort where anyone could look at them, copy them, steal them...
wake up, the dude committed possibly the most serious security breach in the history of the united states
instead of owning the blatant evidence in front of your face, you're grasping at straws
nothing new for the cult of trump, though
This is just the tired same thing both sides nonsense we've heard from you MAGAs over the years.
One side continues to misbehave and project their misbehaving. It's not the liberals.
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Not that this will register with the smooth brains but let's set the record straight shall we?
93% of Black Lives Matter Protests Have Been Peaceful:
https://time.com/5886348/report-peaceful-protests/
At the end of 2020, Trump's DHS has also stated white supremacist extremists are the most dangerous domestic terrorism threat in the US:
https://www.dhs.gov/sites/default/files/publications/2020_10_06_homeland-threat-assessment.pdf
Where could some of the 7% of these non peaceful incidents be coming from? Are right wingers intentionally fanning the flames?
AP finds most arrested in protests aren’t leftist radicals
https://apnews.com/article/virus-ou...al-injustice-7edf9027af1878283f3818d96c54f748
Twitter suspends account of white nationalist group posing as antifa:
https://www.cnet.com/news/twitter-suspends-account-white-nationalist-group-posing-as-antifa/
Far-right smear campaign against Antifa exposed:
https://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-41036631
White supremacy groups try to infiltrate recent protests and influence the narrative:
https://www.kcrw.com/news/shows/pre...courts-amid-covid-19/white-supremacy-protests
3 with ties to white extremism accused of plotting mayhem at protests:
https://www.ajc.com/news/with-ties-...tting-mayhem-protests/GdtpTjwVaapgVZihVtNWeI/
Antifa not the cause of violence at protests:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/06/22/who-caused-violence-protests-its-not-antifa/
Far-right extremists showing up at BLM protests behind the violence:
https://www.kansascity.com/news/local/article243553662.html
White agitators bringing arson to a George Floyd protest:
https://www.frontpagelive.com/2020/06/04/white-arsonists-george-floyd-protests/
Threat of "lethal violence" from "lone offenders" motivated by race:
https://abcnews.go.com/US/intellige...ated-violence-makes-mention/story?id=71166595
Richmond riots instigated by white supremacists:
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/07/wh...-protesters-instigated-richmond-riots-police/
Proud Boys’ brutally beat Black Lives Matter protesters after Trump Parade:
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/09/wa...k-lives-matter-protesters-after-trump-parade/
Leaked Messages Show Far-Right Group's Plans for Portland Violence:
https://www.bellingcat.com/news/2020/09/23/patriot-coalition-far-right-chat-logs-violence/
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/sep/23/oregon-portland-pro-trump-protests-violence-texts
Oregon sheriff tells militia members to "have fun killing antifa"
Police arrest Proud Boy protester who pointed gun at Portland rally:
https://www.opb.org/article/2020/09...-protester-who-pointed-gun-at-portland-rally/
Cop drives motorcycle into protester:
https://www.theblaze.com/news/cop-drives-motorcycle-into-protester
Boogaloo Bois fired on Minneapolis police precinct, shouted 'Justice for Floyd'
https://www.startribune.com/charges...precinct-shouted-justice-for-floyd/572843802/
https://www.mediaite.com/news/far-r...after-shooting-at-minneapolis-police-station/
Trump supporters trying to destroy the Oregon's State Capitol doors to gain entry:
Trump supporters use mace on police during a protest at Oregon’s capital:
GOP cop running for office punches his black woman opponent at abortion rally:
Right wingers who stormed Oregon State Capitol standoff with Police. Tell them they are traitors and threaten to hang them:
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Between 2007-2017 extremists of every stripe have killed 372 Americans. 74 percent of those killings were committed by right wing extremists.
Only 2 percent of those deaths were at the hands of left wing extremists.
From:
https://www.snopes.com/news/2017/08/17/are-antifa-and-the-alt-right-equally-violent/
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Murder victims of the Alt Right/White Supremacy in 2017:
Heather Heyer
http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/13/us/charlottesville-heather-heyer-profile/index.html
Taliesin Namkai Meche
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/...ing_victim_attended_r_1.html#incart_big-photo
Ricky Best
http://taskandpurpose.com/ricky-best-one-2-men-killed-portland-stabbing-army-veteran/
Richard Collins III
https://www.thenation.com/article/lynching-university-maryland-campus/
Timothy Caughman
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stabbing_of_Timothy_Caughman
Srinivas Kuchibhotla
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Olathe,_Kansas_shooting
Casey Marquez & Francisco Fernandez
https://www.thedailybeast.com/new-m...ecret-life-on-pro-trump-white-supremacy-sites
Charles Davis
https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch...arged-killing-father-over-conspiracy-theories
Officer Zackari Parrish
http://www.cnn.com/2018/01/01/us/colorado-shooting-suspect-military-record/index.html
Buckley Kuhn-Fricker & Scott Fricker
https://www.washingtonpost.com/loca...55031558ff4_story.html?utm_term=.32ba34f2ae29
The 6 Victims of the Quebec City mosque shooting:
Ibrahima Barry, Mamadou Tanou Barry, Khaled Belkacemi, Aboubaker Thabti, Abdelkrim Hassane, and Azzedine Soufiane
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quebec_City_mosque_shooting
Murder Victims of the Far Left or Antifa in 2017:
Murder victims of the Alt Right/White Supremacy in 2018:
Blaze Bernstein
https://www.haaretz.com/blaze-bernstein-murder-suspect-displayed-hate-on-social-media-1.5751372
The 17 Victims of the Stoneman Douglas High School Shooting:
Alyssa Alhadeff, Scott Beigel, Martin Duque, Nicholas Dworet, Aaron Feis, Jaime Guttenberg,
Chris Hixon, Luke Hoyer, Cara Loughran, Gina Montalto, Joaquin Oliver, Alaina Petty,
Meadow Pollack, Helena Ramsay, Alex Schachter, Carmen Schentrup, and Peter Wang
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stoneman_Douglas_High_School_shooting
The 10 Victims of the Santa Fe High School Shooting:
Jared Conard Black, Shana Fisher, Christian Riley Garcia, Aaron Kyle McLeod, Glenda Anne Perkins,
Angelique Ramirez, Sabika Sheikh, Christopher Stone, Cynthia Tisdale, and Kimberly Vaughan
https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo...shooting-reported-at-high-school-near-houston
The 10 Victims of the Toronto Van Attack
Beutis Renuka Amarasinghe, Andrea Bradden, Geraldine Brady, So He Chung, Anne Marie D'Amico
Mary Elizabeth Forsyth, Chul Min "Eddie" Kang, Ji Hun Kim, Munir Najjar, and Dorothy Sewell
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toronto_van_attack
Sherell L. Lewis Jr
https://nypost.com/2018/05/31/motorist-brags-about-running-over-some-n-r-on-snapchat/
Jeremy Himmelman & Andrew Oneschuck
https://www.tampabay.com/news/publi...-returns-from-state-mental-hospital-20190326/
The 5 Victims of the Annapolis Capital Shooting:
Gerald Fischman, Rob Hiaasen, John McNamara, Rebecca Smith, and Wendi Winters
https://bluestatedaily.com/accused-...d-ramos-was-inspired-by-the-alt-right-report/
Maurice Stallard & Vickie Lee Jones
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-new...ered-whites-don-t-kill-whites-witness-n924641
The 11 victims of the Pittsburgh synagogue shooting:
Joyce Fienberg, Rich Gottfried, Rose Mallinger, Jerry Rabinowitz, Cecil Rosenthal, David Rosenthal,
Bernice Simon, Sylvan Simon, Daniel Stein, Melvin Wax, & Irving Younger
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pittsburgh_synagogue_shooting
Dr. Nancy Van Vessem & Maura Binkley
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/03/us/yoga-studio-shooting-florida.html
Murder Victims of the Far Left or Antifa in 2018:
Murder victims of the Alt Right/White Supremacy in 2019:
James Wolfe
https://www.nydailynews.com/news/na...brother-lizard-killed-him-20190109-story.html
The 5 Victimes of the Sebring Fl Bank Shooting:
Cynthia Watson, Marisol Lopez, Jessica Montague, Debra Cook and Ana Pinon-Williams
https://heavy.com/news/2019/01/zephen-xaver/
The 51 Victims of the Christchurch mosque shootings:
The ages of those killed ranged from 2 to 71
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christchurch_mosque_shootings
Sydney Aiello
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/parkla...own-life/?ftag=CNM-00-10aab7e&linkId=65145580
Walter Lübcke
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...es-to-killing-german-politician-walter-lubcke
Stephen Romero, Keyla Salazar, and Trevor Deon Irby
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gilroy_Garlic_Festival_shooting
The 22 victims of the El Paso Shooting
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_El_Paso_shooting
Murder Victims of the Far Left or Antifa in 2019:
Murder victims of the Alt Right/White Supremacy in 2020:
The 10 victims of a far right extremist attack in Germany:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...nau-dead-several-people-shisha-near-frankfurt
Ahmaud Arbery
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Ahmaud_Arbery
Garrett Foster
https://www.texastribune.org/2020/07/31/daniel-perry-austin-protest-garrett-foster/
David Patrick Underwood & Damon Gutzwiller
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_boogaloo_killings
Anthony Huber & Joseph Rosenbaum
https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2020/08/26/kenosha-shooting-kyle-rittenhouse-arrested-antioch-fugitive/
Kevin Mendiola Jr
https://www.reviewjournal.com/crime...fendants-could-face-terrorism-charge-2236243/
Killer Of California Cops Was Associated With Right-Wing 'Boogaloo Movement
https://www.forbes.com/sites/tommyb...right-wing-boogaloo-movement/?sh=1b3289ee59bd
Murder Victims of the Far Left or Antifa in 2020:
Jay Bishop
https://www.newsbreak.com/oregon/po...-investigation-in-portland-trump-rally-murder
Oscar Lee Stewart (NOTE: This was not intentional but the actions still resulted in a death)
https://www.postbulletin.com/news/l...for-minneapolis-arson-that-killed-another-man
Murder victims of the Alt Right/White Supremacy in 2021:
Officer Brian D. Sicknick (Killed by an injury from the attempted MAGA coup)
https://www.uscp.gov/media-center/press-releases/loss-uscp-colleague-brian-d-sicknick
Officer Jeffrey Smith
https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/02/poli...cer-suicide-january-6-capitol-riot/index.html
Officer Howie Liebengood
https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/17/politics/capitol-police-officer-widow/index.html
Officer Gunther Hashida
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/...fficer-who-responded-to-jan-6-dies-by-suicide
Officer Kyle DeFreytag
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/...ponded-to-jan-6-attack-dies-by-suicide-report
The QAnon killer's two children:
https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/12/us/father-kills-children-qanon-california-mexico/index.html
The 5 mass shooting victims of the Trump supporting virgin:
https://www.thedailybeast.com/jake-...id-he-was-an-american-trump-supporting-virgin
Georgette Kauffman & Daniel Kaufmann(attempted):
https://www.kwtx.com/2021/09/10/aff...an-shot-her-husband-because-they-voted-biden/
Roberto Padilla Arguelles & Jo Acker:
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/amp/na...-suspect-in-boise-mall-shooting-that-killed-2
The 5 mass shooting victims in Denver Colorado:
https://www.newsweek.com/denver-shooter-lyndon-mcleod-guns-misogyny-social-media-1663930
Murder Victims of the Far Left or Antifa in 2021:
Murder victims of the Alt Right/White Supremacy in 2022:
The 10 mass shooting victims in Buffalo New York:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_Buffalo_shooting
Judge John Roemer:
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-new...ted-attack-suspect-hit-list-include-rcna31995
The 7 victims at the Highland Park parade shooting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Highland_Park_parade_shooting
Wife of the QAnon killer:
https://www.detroitnews.com/story/n...er-killing-wife-shooting-daughter/8058356001/
Shot Migrant:
https://www.businessinsider.com/jai...harged-with-shooting-migrants-in-texas-2022-9
Anthony Lee King:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/ohio-man-kills-neighbor-because-204600966.html
Murder Victims of the Far Left or Antifa in 2022:
Cayler Ellingson:
https://tinyurl.com/2p8evm6a
Murder victims of the Alt Right/White Supremacy in 2023:
Morgan Daub:
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-new...made-joint-decision-kill-police-say-rcna69060
The 8 victims in a Texas mall shooting:
https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/08/us/allen-texas-mall-shooting-gunman-monday/index.html
Murder Victims of the Far Left or Antifa in 2023:
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Dishonorable mentions from 2017 and beyond:
Alt Right/White Supremacy:
The plot to bomb Somali immigrants:
https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/thre...n-plotting-bomb-somali-immigrants-garden-city
Cesar Altieri Sayoc Jr AKA the MAGA Bomber:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/October_2018_United_States_mail_bombing_attempts
The Iowa woman who ran down a teen with a car because she was ‘Mexican’ & also attempted to kill an African American boy
https://www.thedailybeast.com/iowa-...n-with-car-because-she-was-mexican-police-say
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2019/12/24/us/iowa-woman-ran-over-girl-hit-black-child-trnd/index.html
Far Right planned mosque attacks:
https://thehill.com/policy/internat...roup-in-germany-planned-mosque-attacks-report
Neo-Nazi plot to blow up a hospital:
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/neo-nazi-plot-to-blow-up-hospital-is-foiled-by-fbi-b7hgcf936
The Trucker who attempted to run over protestors:
https://www.insider.com/bogdan-vechirko-minneapolis-trucker-has-criminal-past-gave-to-trump-2020-6
The KKK leader who drove a truck into a BLM crowd:
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/06/vi...crowd-is-the-head-of-the-states-ku-klux-klan/
Black woman set on fire by white men:
https://www.revolt.tv/2020/6/25/21303243/black-woman-set-on-fire-madison
Attempted lynching of Vauhxx Booker:
https://bloomingtonian.com/2020/07/...ned-with-noose-during-assault-at-lake-monroe/
Attempted kidnapping plot of Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gretchen_Whitmer_kidnapping_plot
Plot to assassinate Joe Biden:
https://www.wbtv.com/2020/10/22/man...guns-explosives-researched-killing-joe-biden/
Georgia teen's plot to stab Black churchgoers:
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...ced-plot-attack-black-churchgoers/6006926002/
Proud Boy Arrested After Allegedly Threatening to Blow Up North Dakota Voting Location
https://www.newsweek.com/self-profe...ing-blow-north-dakota-voting-location-1543696
House with ‘Dump Trump’ sign gets shot up in Ohio:
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...trump-sign-election-ohio-police-b1622365.html
The 4 terrorists who ended up killed during the capitol building insurrection:
https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/06/politics/us-capitol-lockdown/index.html
Attempt to execute Vice President Pence:
Intent to assassinate Speaker Nancy Pelosi:
https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSL1N2JK0BC
Intent to assassinate Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez:
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...sinate-alexandria-ocasio-cortez-b1791766.html
FBI arrests New York 'Proud Boy' plotting second attack on the Capitol:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/fbi-arrests-york-proud-boy-182123021.html
White Army vet charged in shooting Black girl at Trump rally:
https://apnews.com/article/race-and...y-des-moines-18c07e4efae400f2ebab63ee052f6c57
A California man who made pipe bombs, plotted attacks on Democrats to keep Trump in power:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati...e2964e-60d5-11eb-9061-07abcc1f9229_story.html
Woman who sped through a Covid vaccine tent:
https://meaww.com/virginia-christine-lewis-brown-maryville-tn-vaccination-site-ramming-car-arrested
Arson incident at Travis County Democratic Party office:
https://cbsaustin.com/amp/news/loca...dent-at-travis-county-democratic-party-office
Merced man arrested on way to White House with rifle, "hit list":
https://www.latimes.com/california/...ouse-with-rifle-hit-list-compiled-from-tiktok
"Freedom" Convoy attempt to set occupied apartment building on fire:
https://globalnews.ca/news/8600592/trucker-convoy-police-investigating-arson-apartment/
Truck Driver Rams Into Abortion Rights Demonstrators At Roe Rally In Iowa:
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/truc...onstration-in-iowa_n_62b66490e4b0cdccbe6b9399
1/6er attacks Cincinnati FBI Office:
https://www.nytimes.com/live/2022/08/11/us/fbi-cincinnati-shooting-news
Man in rainbow wig ‘working to restore Trump to President King of the United States’:
https://news.yahoo.com/local-man-rainbow-wig-working-175606326.html
The violent attack on Paul Pelosi by a man trying to hold Nancy Pelosi "hostage":
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/28/us/politics/nancy-pelosi-husband-assaulted.html
Georgia white supremacist pleads guilty to convenience store shootings intended to kill Black Arabs :
https://www.rawstory.com/georgia-hate-crime/
Racially motivated stabbing on public bus:
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/crime/indiana-woman-arrested-racially-motivated-stabbing
IL Planned Parenthood Clinic Firebombing:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/illinois-planned-parenthood-clinic-firebombed-164400930.html
Plot to Firebomb Sacramento Democratic HQ:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-supporter-plot-firebomb-sacramento-203719176.html
The Far Left or Antifa:
The Congressional Baseball Shooting
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Congressional_baseball_shooting
2019 Tacoma attack
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_Tacoma_attack
BLM organizer drives through a crowd of Trump supporters:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...ganizer-plows-car-crowd-Trump-supporters.html
Half hearted attempt to assassinate Brett Kavanaugh:
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/man...e-kavanaughs-home-allegedly/story?id=85259333
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But antifa and BLM tho
Even if on side does it more than the other, 'both sides' is still technically true. That's not important though.This is just the tired same thing both sides nonsense we've heard from you MAGAs over the years.
One side continues to misbehave and project their misbehaving. It's not the liberals.
Not that this will register with the smooth brains but let's set the record straight shall we?
[a bunch of stuff]
But antifa and BLM tho
Putting words into others' mouths before they even speak shows your unwillingness to listen. Why bother?Don't worry, they will just come back with a No true Scotsman fallacy
I wish certain laws would actually be enforced, or at least removed if they aren't. Otherwise, everything become ambiguous and it opens the doors to people a) not following the law, or b) claiming political motivation in enforcement of the law.Honestly don't care for the guy, and you kinda proved my point. I couldn't care less if he gets hit with fines, jail time or whatever, but do you think he's the only one doing shit that can be considered illegal or corrupt, because if so then good lord you trust the government too much.
Wait, I thought it was satire.Fuck off with this you racist shit.
This is just the tired same thing both sides nonsense we've heard from you MAGAs over the years.
One side continues to misbehave and project their misbehaving. It's not the liberals.
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Not that this will register with the smooth brains but let's set the record straight shall we?
93% of Black Lives Matter Protests Have Been Peaceful:
https://time.com/5886348/report-peaceful-protests/
At the end of 2020, Trump's DHS has also stated white supremacist extremists are the most dangerous domestic terrorism threat in the US:
https://www.dhs.gov/sites/default/files/publications/2020_10_06_homeland-threat-assessment.pdf
Where could some of the 7% of these non peaceful incidents be coming from? Are right wingers intentionally fanning the flames?
AP finds most arrested in protests aren’t leftist radicals
https://apnews.com/article/virus-ou...al-injustice-7edf9027af1878283f3818d96c54f748
Twitter suspends account of white nationalist group posing as antifa:
https://www.cnet.com/news/twitter-suspends-account-white-nationalist-group-posing-as-antifa/
Far-right smear campaign against Antifa exposed:
https://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-41036631
White supremacy groups try to infiltrate recent protests and influence the narrative:
https://www.kcrw.com/news/shows/pre...courts-amid-covid-19/white-supremacy-protests
3 with ties to white extremism accused of plotting mayhem at protests:
https://www.ajc.com/news/with-ties-...tting-mayhem-protests/GdtpTjwVaapgVZihVtNWeI/
Antifa not the cause of violence at protests:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/06/22/who-caused-violence-protests-its-not-antifa/
Far-right extremists showing up at BLM protests behind the violence:
https://www.kansascity.com/news/local/article243553662.html
White agitators bringing arson to a George Floyd protest:
https://www.frontpagelive.com/2020/06/04/white-arsonists-george-floyd-protests/
Threat of "lethal violence" from "lone offenders" motivated by race:
https://abcnews.go.com/US/intellige...ated-violence-makes-mention/story?id=71166595
Richmond riots instigated by white supremacists:
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/07/wh...-protesters-instigated-richmond-riots-police/
Proud Boys’ brutally beat Black Lives Matter protesters after Trump Parade:
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/09/wa...k-lives-matter-protesters-after-trump-parade/
Leaked Messages Show Far-Right Group's Plans for Portland Violence:
https://www.bellingcat.com/news/2020/09/23/patriot-coalition-far-right-chat-logs-violence/
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/sep/23/oregon-portland-pro-trump-protests-violence-texts
Oregon sheriff tells militia members to "have fun killing antifa"
Police arrest Proud Boy protester who pointed gun at Portland rally:
https://www.opb.org/article/2020/09...-protester-who-pointed-gun-at-portland-rally/
Cop drives motorcycle into protester:
https://www.theblaze.com/news/cop-drives-motorcycle-into-protester
Boogaloo Bois fired on Minneapolis police precinct, shouted 'Justice for Floyd'
https://www.startribune.com/charges...precinct-shouted-justice-for-floyd/572843802/
https://www.mediaite.com/news/far-r...after-shooting-at-minneapolis-police-station/
Trump supporters trying to destroy the Oregon's State Capitol doors to gain entry:
Trump supporters use mace on police during a protest at Oregon’s capital:
GOP cop running for office punches his black woman opponent at abortion rally:
Right wingers who stormed Oregon State Capitol standoff with Police. Tell them they are traitors and threaten to hang them:
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Between 2007-2017 extremists of every stripe have killed 372 Americans. 74 percent of those killings were committed by right wing extremists.
Only 2 percent of those deaths were at the hands of left wing extremists.
From:
https://www.snopes.com/news/2017/08/17/are-antifa-and-the-alt-right-equally-violent/
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Murder victims of the Alt Right/White Supremacy in 2017:
Heather Heyer
http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/13/us/charlottesville-heather-heyer-profile/index.html
Taliesin Namkai Meche
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/...ing_victim_attended_r_1.html#incart_big-photo
Ricky Best
http://taskandpurpose.com/ricky-best-one-2-men-killed-portland-stabbing-army-veteran/
Richard Collins III
https://www.thenation.com/article/lynching-university-maryland-campus/
Timothy Caughman
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stabbing_of_Timothy_Caughman
Srinivas Kuchibhotla
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Olathe,_Kansas_shooting
Casey Marquez & Francisco Fernandez
https://www.thedailybeast.com/new-m...ecret-life-on-pro-trump-white-supremacy-sites
Charles Davis
https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch...arged-killing-father-over-conspiracy-theories
Officer Zackari Parrish
http://www.cnn.com/2018/01/01/us/colorado-shooting-suspect-military-record/index.html
Buckley Kuhn-Fricker & Scott Fricker
https://www.washingtonpost.com/loca...55031558ff4_story.html?utm_term=.32ba34f2ae29
The 6 Victims of the Quebec City mosque shooting:
Ibrahima Barry, Mamadou Tanou Barry, Khaled Belkacemi, Aboubaker Thabti, Abdelkrim Hassane, and Azzedine Soufiane
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quebec_City_mosque_shooting
Murder Victims of the Far Left or Antifa in 2017:
Murder victims of the Alt Right/White Supremacy in 2018:
Blaze Bernstein
https://www.haaretz.com/blaze-bernstein-murder-suspect-displayed-hate-on-social-media-1.5751372
The 17 Victims of the Stoneman Douglas High School Shooting:
Alyssa Alhadeff, Scott Beigel, Martin Duque, Nicholas Dworet, Aaron Feis, Jaime Guttenberg,
Chris Hixon, Luke Hoyer, Cara Loughran, Gina Montalto, Joaquin Oliver, Alaina Petty,
Meadow Pollack, Helena Ramsay, Alex Schachter, Carmen Schentrup, and Peter Wang
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stoneman_Douglas_High_School_shooting
The 10 Victims of the Santa Fe High School Shooting:
Jared Conard Black, Shana Fisher, Christian Riley Garcia, Aaron Kyle McLeod, Glenda Anne Perkins,
Angelique Ramirez, Sabika Sheikh, Christopher Stone, Cynthia Tisdale, and Kimberly Vaughan
https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo...shooting-reported-at-high-school-near-houston
The 10 Victims of the Toronto Van Attack
Beutis Renuka Amarasinghe, Andrea Bradden, Geraldine Brady, So He Chung, Anne Marie D'Amico
Mary Elizabeth Forsyth, Chul Min "Eddie" Kang, Ji Hun Kim, Munir Najjar, and Dorothy Sewell
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toronto_van_attack
Sherell L. Lewis Jr
https://nypost.com/2018/05/31/motorist-brags-about-running-over-some-n-r-on-snapchat/
Jeremy Himmelman & Andrew Oneschuck
https://www.tampabay.com/news/publi...-returns-from-state-mental-hospital-20190326/
The 5 Victims of the Annapolis Capital Shooting:
Gerald Fischman, Rob Hiaasen, John McNamara, Rebecca Smith, and Wendi Winters
https://bluestatedaily.com/accused-...d-ramos-was-inspired-by-the-alt-right-report/
Maurice Stallard & Vickie Lee Jones
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-new...ered-whites-don-t-kill-whites-witness-n924641
The 11 victims of the Pittsburgh synagogue shooting:
Joyce Fienberg, Rich Gottfried, Rose Mallinger, Jerry Rabinowitz, Cecil Rosenthal, David Rosenthal,
Bernice Simon, Sylvan Simon, Daniel Stein, Melvin Wax, & Irving Younger
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pittsburgh_synagogue_shooting
Dr. Nancy Van Vessem & Maura Binkley
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/03/us/yoga-studio-shooting-florida.html
Murder Victims of the Far Left or Antifa in 2018:
Murder victims of the Alt Right/White Supremacy in 2019:
James Wolfe
https://www.nydailynews.com/news/na...brother-lizard-killed-him-20190109-story.html
The 5 Victimes of the Sebring Fl Bank Shooting:
Cynthia Watson, Marisol Lopez, Jessica Montague, Debra Cook and Ana Pinon-Williams
https://heavy.com/news/2019/01/zephen-xaver/
The 51 Victims of the Christchurch mosque shootings:
The ages of those killed ranged from 2 to 71
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christchurch_mosque_shootings
Sydney Aiello
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/parkla...own-life/?ftag=CNM-00-10aab7e&linkId=65145580
Walter Lübcke
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...es-to-killing-german-politician-walter-lubcke
Stephen Romero, Keyla Salazar, and Trevor Deon Irby
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gilroy_Garlic_Festival_shooting
The 22 victims of the El Paso Shooting
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_El_Paso_shooting
Murder Victims of the Far Left or Antifa in 2019:
Murder victims of the Alt Right/White Supremacy in 2020:
The 10 victims of a far right extremist attack in Germany:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...nau-dead-several-people-shisha-near-frankfurt
Ahmaud Arbery
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Ahmaud_Arbery
Garrett Foster
https://www.texastribune.org/2020/07/31/daniel-perry-austin-protest-garrett-foster/
David Patrick Underwood & Damon Gutzwiller
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_boogaloo_killings
Anthony Huber & Joseph Rosenbaum
https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2020/08/26/kenosha-shooting-kyle-rittenhouse-arrested-antioch-fugitive/
Kevin Mendiola Jr
https://www.reviewjournal.com/crime...fendants-could-face-terrorism-charge-2236243/
Killer Of California Cops Was Associated With Right-Wing 'Boogaloo Movement
https://www.forbes.com/sites/tommyb...right-wing-boogaloo-movement/?sh=1b3289ee59bd
Murder Victims of the Far Left or Antifa in 2020:
Jay Bishop
https://www.newsbreak.com/oregon/po...-investigation-in-portland-trump-rally-murder
Oscar Lee Stewart (NOTE: This was not intentional but the actions still resulted in a death)
https://www.postbulletin.com/news/l...for-minneapolis-arson-that-killed-another-man
Murder victims of the Alt Right/White Supremacy in 2021:
Officer Brian D. Sicknick (Killed by an injury from the attempted MAGA coup)
https://www.uscp.gov/media-center/press-releases/loss-uscp-colleague-brian-d-sicknick
Officer Jeffrey Smith
https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/02/poli...cer-suicide-january-6-capitol-riot/index.html
Officer Howie Liebengood
https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/17/politics/capitol-police-officer-widow/index.html
Officer Gunther Hashida
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/...fficer-who-responded-to-jan-6-dies-by-suicide
Officer Kyle DeFreytag
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/...ponded-to-jan-6-attack-dies-by-suicide-report
The QAnon killer's two children:
https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/12/us/father-kills-children-qanon-california-mexico/index.html
The 5 mass shooting victims of the Trump supporting virgin:
https://www.thedailybeast.com/jake-...id-he-was-an-american-trump-supporting-virgin
Georgette Kauffman & Daniel Kaufmann(attempted):
https://www.kwtx.com/2021/09/10/aff...an-shot-her-husband-because-they-voted-biden/
Roberto Padilla Arguelles & Jo Acker:
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/amp/na...-suspect-in-boise-mall-shooting-that-killed-2
The 5 mass shooting victims in Denver Colorado:
https://www.newsweek.com/denver-shooter-lyndon-mcleod-guns-misogyny-social-media-1663930
Murder Victims of the Far Left or Antifa in 2021:
Murder victims of the Alt Right/White Supremacy in 2022:
The 10 mass shooting victims in Buffalo New York:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_Buffalo_shooting
Judge John Roemer:
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-new...ted-attack-suspect-hit-list-include-rcna31995
The 7 victims at the Highland Park parade shooting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Highland_Park_parade_shooting
Wife of the QAnon killer:
https://www.detroitnews.com/story/n...er-killing-wife-shooting-daughter/8058356001/
Shot Migrant:
https://www.businessinsider.com/jai...harged-with-shooting-migrants-in-texas-2022-9
Anthony Lee King:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/ohio-man-kills-neighbor-because-204600966.html
Murder Victims of the Far Left or Antifa in 2022:
Cayler Ellingson:
https://tinyurl.com/2p8evm6a
Murder victims of the Alt Right/White Supremacy in 2023:
Morgan Daub:
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-new...made-joint-decision-kill-police-say-rcna69060
The 8 victims in a Texas mall shooting:
https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/08/us/allen-texas-mall-shooting-gunman-monday/index.html
Murder Victims of the Far Left or Antifa in 2023:
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Dishonorable mentions from 2017 and beyond:
Alt Right/White Supremacy:
The plot to bomb Somali immigrants:
https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/thre...n-plotting-bomb-somali-immigrants-garden-city
Cesar Altieri Sayoc Jr AKA the MAGA Bomber:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/October_2018_United_States_mail_bombing_attempts
The Iowa woman who ran down a teen with a car because she was ‘Mexican’ & also attempted to kill an African American boy
https://www.thedailybeast.com/iowa-...n-with-car-because-she-was-mexican-police-say
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2019/12/24/us/iowa-woman-ran-over-girl-hit-black-child-trnd/index.html
Far Right planned mosque attacks:
https://thehill.com/policy/internat...roup-in-germany-planned-mosque-attacks-report
Neo-Nazi plot to blow up a hospital:
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/neo-nazi-plot-to-blow-up-hospital-is-foiled-by-fbi-b7hgcf936
The Trucker who attempted to run over protestors:
https://www.insider.com/bogdan-vechirko-minneapolis-trucker-has-criminal-past-gave-to-trump-2020-6
The KKK leader who drove a truck into a BLM crowd:
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/06/vi...crowd-is-the-head-of-the-states-ku-klux-klan/
Black woman set on fire by white men:
https://www.revolt.tv/2020/6/25/21303243/black-woman-set-on-fire-madison
Attempted lynching of Vauhxx Booker:
https://bloomingtonian.com/2020/07/...ned-with-noose-during-assault-at-lake-monroe/
Attempted kidnapping plot of Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gretchen_Whitmer_kidnapping_plot
Plot to assassinate Joe Biden:
https://www.wbtv.com/2020/10/22/man...guns-explosives-researched-killing-joe-biden/
Georgia teen's plot to stab Black churchgoers:
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...ced-plot-attack-black-churchgoers/6006926002/
Proud Boy Arrested After Allegedly Threatening to Blow Up North Dakota Voting Location
https://www.newsweek.com/self-profe...ing-blow-north-dakota-voting-location-1543696
House with ‘Dump Trump’ sign gets shot up in Ohio:
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...trump-sign-election-ohio-police-b1622365.html
The 4 terrorists who ended up killed during the capitol building insurrection:
https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/06/politics/us-capitol-lockdown/index.html
Attempt to execute Vice President Pence:
Intent to assassinate Speaker Nancy Pelosi:
https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSL1N2JK0BC
Intent to assassinate Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez:
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...sinate-alexandria-ocasio-cortez-b1791766.html
FBI arrests New York 'Proud Boy' plotting second attack on the Capitol:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/fbi-arrests-york-proud-boy-182123021.html
White Army vet charged in shooting Black girl at Trump rally:
https://apnews.com/article/race-and...y-des-moines-18c07e4efae400f2ebab63ee052f6c57
A California man who made pipe bombs, plotted attacks on Democrats to keep Trump in power:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati...e2964e-60d5-11eb-9061-07abcc1f9229_story.html
Woman who sped through a Covid vaccine tent:
https://meaww.com/virginia-christine-lewis-brown-maryville-tn-vaccination-site-ramming-car-arrested
Arson incident at Travis County Democratic Party office:
https://cbsaustin.com/amp/news/loca...dent-at-travis-county-democratic-party-office
Merced man arrested on way to White House with rifle, "hit list":
https://www.latimes.com/california/...ouse-with-rifle-hit-list-compiled-from-tiktok
"Freedom" Convoy attempt to set occupied apartment building on fire:
https://globalnews.ca/news/8600592/trucker-convoy-police-investigating-arson-apartment/
Truck Driver Rams Into Abortion Rights Demonstrators At Roe Rally In Iowa:
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/truc...onstration-in-iowa_n_62b66490e4b0cdccbe6b9399
1/6er attacks Cincinnati FBI Office:
https://www.nytimes.com/live/2022/08/11/us/fbi-cincinnati-shooting-news
Man in rainbow wig ‘working to restore Trump to President King of the United States’:
https://news.yahoo.com/local-man-rainbow-wig-working-175606326.html
The violent attack on Paul Pelosi by a man trying to hold Nancy Pelosi "hostage":
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/28/us/politics/nancy-pelosi-husband-assaulted.html
Georgia white supremacist pleads guilty to convenience store shootings intended to kill Black Arabs :
https://www.rawstory.com/georgia-hate-crime/
Racially motivated stabbing on public bus:
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/crime/indiana-woman-arrested-racially-motivated-stabbing
IL Planned Parenthood Clinic Firebombing:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/illinois-planned-parenthood-clinic-firebombed-164400930.html
Plot to Firebomb Sacramento Democratic HQ:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-supporter-plot-firebomb-sacramento-203719176.html
The Far Left or Antifa:
The Congressional Baseball Shooting
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Congressional_baseball_shooting
2019 Tacoma attack
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_Tacoma_attack
BLM organizer drives through a crowd of Trump supporters:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...ganizer-plows-car-crowd-Trump-supporters.html
Half hearted attempt to assassinate Brett Kavanaugh:
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/man...e-kavanaughs-home-allegedly/story?id=85259333
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But antifa and BLM tho
You’re right, it wasn’t one fallacy, it turned out to another one instead. MAGA cultists aren’t worth hearing out as I know they will always bring some bullshit to the table and quite honestly, I don’t respect FascistsPutting words into others' mouths before they even speak shows your unwillingness to listen. Why bother?
Hey now! I never claimed to be the smartest person, just the smartest catboy! Which is slightly smarter than your average bear.I like how everyone in this thread is somehow simultaneously “the smartest person in the room” and also gullible enough to engage in a debate with a discount store-quality troll. None of you have any impulse control. Very embarrassing indeed, do better.
Garbage, and any mention or reply to said garbage, has been removed. Move along.
Cats routinely fail the MSR test, so introspection in front of a mirror won’t necessarily help here. I don’t know how this applies to Catboys, but I do know that a stupid shouting match about whose rioters are more virtuous is not a serious conversation, and it’s certainly not one that belongs in this thread, based on the thread title.Hey now! I never claimed to be the smartest person, just the smartest catboy! Which is slightly smarter than your average bear.
That's fair and I def know my reflection is normally me.Cats routinely fail the MSR test, so introspection in front of a mirror won’t necessarily help here. I don know how this applies to Catboys, but I do know that a stupid shouting match about whose rioters are more virtuous is not a serious conversation, and it’s certainly not one that belongs in this thread, based on the thread title.
Over his attempts to change the result of the election with fake state electors. The phone call to Georgia is just the tip of the iceberg, and if he's found guilty of this, it'd be automatic disqualification from holding public office under the 14th amendment. That could potentially apply to the documents case as well, but there's more of a clear-cut connection here.Looks like he has been indicted again.
Actually, seems to be additional charges to the classified documents case.Over his attempts to change the result of the election with fake state electors. The phone call to Georgia is just the tip of the iceberg, and if he's found guilty of this, it'd be automatic disqualification from holding public office under the 14th amendment. That could potentially apply to the documents case as well, but there's more of a clear-cut connection here.
Yep, one additional count of willful retention of national defense information and two additional obstruction counts.Actually, seems to be additional charges to the classified documents case.
Yeah the indictments I'm referring to are still expected to be handed down soon, though.Actually, seems to be additional charges to the classified documents case.
The documents trial is set for May, well before the election and with enough time to still schedule the election fraud trial before or after it.God I wish this would just wrap up and the world can move on. Unfortunately, it'll be at least another year or two of speculation and click-bait articles.
Yep, the Jan 6th indictments. I'm kind of surprised it didn't happen this week, as the target letters went out last week.Yeah the indictments I'm referring to are still expected to be handed down soon, though.
The documents trial still has that judge that may try to push things back for Trump. So we'll have to wait and see for that.The documents trial is set for May, well before the election and with enough time to still schedule the election fraud trial before or after it.