Hacking New System Menu Update 4.3

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nevermind... just.... nevermind

Why is everyone so excited about updating when the entire purpose of this update was to remove homebrew?
 

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No, the Internet Channel was not updated now, but it has been some time ago. Go to the Shopping Channel to see if it has a more recent version than you. BTW, the Internet Channel is never updated with the System Menu's update facility.
 

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harmor said:
Why can't you code it in such a way that it looks for the latest version?
If you can't do that then why not have it connect to your site (if you have one), retrieve the information about the latest Shop Channel then have WiiSCU proceed to download a new version of the Shop Channel from NUS?

That's what previous versions did (checked for latest, in theory), but apparently that doesn't always work, which is why dop-SHOP was made. And I don't have the coding ability to make it connect to my site, check latest version and download it. Sorry.


QUOTE(bjorno @ Jun 22 2010, 03:13 PM) Is it possible to play with Ninty and edit the 4.3 update, so people lower than 4.3 can make profit by using a custom firmware updater?

like this?
Firmware: 4.3 CUSTOM

*prevents deletion of Twilight Hack
*prevents deletion of bannerbomb
*Prevents deletion of bootmii as ios
*Prevents IOS 70 to be stubbed
*prevents deletion of DVDX (any titles)
*prevents deletion of HBC (any titles JODI, HAXX etc etc)
*Remove error 004
*prevents deletion exploit of HackMii Installer Userland+Syscall IOS
*ES_AddTitleFinish (edit so TBR will work)
*NANDFS privilege Enable

If that could be done, it would be a nice firmware.


Most of those are fairly easy.
Preventing deletion of Twilight Hack, HBC and DVDx is a simple patch (already existing for 4.2, just needs ported to work on 4.3).
Preventing deletion of BootMii//IOS is as simple as the updater not installing IOS254 (BootMii prevention stub).
Preventing IOS70 stub is simply a case of not updating IOS70. Although this is really completely pointless, unless you want to patch 4.3 to use IOS70 as System Menu IOS.
Preventing Error 004 could be trickier, but if what I have read is to be believed, its a feature of IOS, so patching System Menu to use IOS70 or IOS60 should do the trick (IOS60 would be better, to prevent Error 003 as well on region-changed Korean Wiis).
The last three points you made all depend on the IOS, so the easiest way to do it would be simply don't upgrade certain important IOS.
And there's no need to have TBR work if you're making a custom updater, because you can just have the updater patch IOS36 to have Trucha bug, ES_DiVerify and NAND Permissions Patch.

EDIT: BTW, I don't think an updater is necessary, nor do I think there is any point in updating by any method. I'm just pointing out these "fixes" would be easy to implement, but if they were, you'd just have 4.1 with some updated IOS. So do yourself a favour and drop the idea, just update your IOS with dop-Mii when it's updated.
 

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I'm still on 4.1U... I'm staying on 4.1U
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Drag0nflamez said:
metroid4life14 said:
I'm still on 4.1U... I'm staying on 4.1U
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until some dumb child comes in with a game with update 4.3 puts it in your wii clicks update and BAMMM! you just lost a softmod...
Priiloader can prevent discs from updating our Wii
 

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jurai said:
maybe someone else already posted this, but oh well

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@hackinblack Firmware Updater 4.3 is on its way...
Already posted, and I can already say that it will be useless, IMO. UNLESS Wanin patches the Systemmenu kinda like Startpatch, and removes the checks, (which I hightly doubt, he never did that before) you can do the same thing with DOP-Mii (once it's updated) or NUSD which his "great" Updater will do. And probably much safer, Wanin bricked some Wiis with his Updater...
 

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Drag0nflamez said:
metroid4life14 said:
I'm still on 4.1U... I'm staying on 4.1U
tongue.gif

until some dumb child comes in with a game with update 4.3 puts it in your wii clicks update and BAMMM! you just lost a softmod...

by the time a disc has 4.3, it will be long "defeated" and anything will work fine.

WiiBricker said:
What is the 004 Error all about? Does it prevent the launching of homebrew apps?

I believe this appears when the Wii starts if bannerbomb is on the SD card. AFAIK, its a "feature" of IOS80, so patching System Menu to use IOS70 or IOS60 instead should prevent it. Although if you are patching System Menu, you're most likely doing it before upgrade, so won't need to use bannerbomb after upgrade. Not that the upgrade has any point to it, but if you really wanted to have it...

QUOTE(Blue-K @ Jun 22 2010, 03:55 PM)
Already posted, and I can already say that it will be useless, IMO. UNLESS Wanin patches the Systemmenu kinda like Startpatch, and removes the checks, you can do the same thing with DOP-Mii (once it's updated) or NUSD. And probably much safer, Wanin bricked some Wiis with his Updater...

Precisely. Also, I don't see why everyone thinks waninkoko is so great, its a pretty simple tool to make I believe.
 

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Blue-K said:
jurai said:
maybe someone else already posted this, but oh well

QUOTE said:
@hackinblack Firmware Updater 4.3 is on its way...
Already posted, and I can already say that it will be useless, IMO. UNLESS Wanin patches the Systemmenu kinda like Startpatch, and removes the checks, (which I hightly doubt, he never did that before) you can do the same thing with DOP-Mii (once it's updated) or NUSD which his "great" Updater will do. And probably much safer, Wanin bricked some Wiis with his Updater...

Yeah removing all those checks will just create a 4.1 menu...
 

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jurai said:
I've used wanin's updaters before with no problems

Congratulations.

Anyway, the main problem with them is they get the latest version of the System Menu IOS, which if there is a newer update, will have been stubbed. They don't check that, and often install stubbed System Menu IOS if they're a little outdated, resulting in a permanent brick.
 

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